Maria WELCOME

2007-12-31 21:07:20

Welcome Maria , I was going to write you a detail post about my big day but
after reading Debbie and Ruths post they said it all very well. So I ditto
there responses. I love the way you mentioned educating yourself this is
such a must we dont know the real long term effects however I did know what
was going to happen if I did not do something. I FEEL WONDERFUL
Robin O - Calif
211-133-????
Dec 5 2002

Nora the newlywed sort of.

2007-12-31 15:09:51

Nora everything will be back to normal quickly are you having lap ?
It does seem this is differnt for each of us. I found the entire procedure
easy !
Robin O - Calif
211-133-????
Dec 5 2002

Weekly Group Chat!!, 9/22/2003, 7:00 pm

2007-12-31 10:06:23

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of Gastric_Bypass_Family
Weekly Group Chat!!
Monday September 22, 2003
7:00 pm - 10:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Notes:

Joyca and the magic #

2007-12-31 07:44:41

Joyce This has crossed my mine and you are so right I would have never
shared my weight.
However now I am glad to so others can see there is hope and help ! Thanks
Robin O - Calif
211-133-???
Dec 5 2002

HELP!!! (and phoey on Dr. Phil!)

2007-12-30 23:58:40

Hello all,
I need some help. I'm having a problem and I just don't know what to
do about it. At 3 months out, I'm pretty happy with my progress as
far as loss and what have you but lately I've been having really bad
snack attacks. This has been happening for about the last week or so
and I just don't know what to do. I crave the salt off crackers and
what have you and have been cheating a little bit with those new
Ritz Chips. I know that it is awful! I don't know what to do. Any
suggestions for what to do when the cravings come on? I think I
still have some of that mentality that I did before surgery and it's
driving me bananas!!!!! Please Help!!!!
On a side note, I was watching Dr. Phil today and he said the
dreaded, mean, nasty words, "If you want a quick fix, go have your
stomach stapled!" I couldn't believe it. What a mean man!!!!!
Tanya T.
432/370(still haven't gotten on a scale for the past 4 weeks)/170
Lap RNY 6/20/03-Houston Dr. Adam Naaman

Welcome Hester

2007-12-30 14:47:57

Hello to you Hester we are neighbors well sort of I am in Bass Lake I shop
in Fresno alot.
It is normal for anyone to question such a major change. Your attitude is
good you are looking forward to a better healthier life for you and your
daughter. I for one had know problems at all and have know regreats I would
do it over again today. I had Dr Higa I think Dr Boone may work out of the
same office not sure. Good Luck to you and keep in touch.
Robin O - Calif
211-133-????
Dec 5 2002

Becky and the fun day

2007-12-30 10:50:23

Becky I am so glad you had such a great day. It will just keep getting
better and better.
Down 25 # 's already - What a Blessing !
Robin O - Calif

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Insurance win - I've lost. It's over

2007-12-30 06:23:08

I'm so sorry! If I remember rightly, you had won the appeal but the
insurance company appealed that decision. Are there any appeal avenues left
or maybe make a publicity stink by contacting media???
Mary
Milwaukee, WI

Re: new, looking for friends

2007-12-29 22:28:35

Hi Stef,
Well, I'm from clear across the country so I can't help in person but
I'm online if you have any questions. I had a similar headache with
trying to get all the paperwork in line. Similar problems with
doctors not doing their job to forward stuff to the surgery/insurance
company... Keep strong, you will get thru this and your date will be
here before you know it. Just focus on everything you need to get
prepared for surgery and that will help pass the time.

new, looking for friends

2007-12-29 21:02:25

Hello all. Anyone in California, San Bernardino area?
I am a 36 year old mother of 2. I am 5'11" and weigh 313#. I
experience several comorbidities, although none of them life
threatening yet! Degenerative arthritis in low back and hips,bone
spurs in both heels, high blood sugar, high cholesterol and
triglycerides, abnormal liver panel, ultrasound revealed a fatty
liver, swelling in lower extremities,very irregular monthly cycles,
constant UTI's,etc. I know its just a matter of time before I
experience the ugly effects of these quiet killers. I have been
researching WLS for several months and have been waiting on approval
of my refferral since 8-4-03. I have Pacificare HMO. This process
is so frustrating, even though they say it only takes 5 business days
to get an answer, they have come up with so many excuses on why it is
taking so long. I was supposedly denied for lack of diet supervision
(6 MOS). I never got a denial letter. I have been followed by my PCP
since Nov. on a restricted carb and sugar plan, Go figure!! My PCP
did not think she needed to send all of my records so she only sent
the page of the day that I requested the referral. Then the medical
director went on vacation for 4 weeks, I am curious who did the
authorizing for emergency stuff while he was out? Then my PCP did
the same. GGggrrrrr. Well anyway I seen my PCP on Monday the 15th
they didnt fax my request until Fri. the 19th. I guss i will try my
patience another week. All this for a consult, my gosh!!! I am
interested in finding people in my local area to buddy with. Sorry I
took so much space. I felt the need to share or vent as some would
say. Have a great day!
Stef

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] 2 YEARS, Stacy ? omg !

2007-12-29 10:36:37

yah I did cry and still wander how I lasted this long. I think God knew when
it was going to be the best time for me to fight some more. we are calling
them to day after hubby gets up from his nap. he worked all day yesterday
and last and today been up since 500am waiting to go to drs to see what's
up with his arm . but will let every one know what happens as soon as we get
some news .thanks for listening to me whine on here.
Stacy from Galesburg,Illinois.

Re: Insurance win - I've lost. It's over

2007-12-29 07:26:21

Vicky,
I am really sorry to hear this. Are you sure there is nothing else
you can do?

Insurance win - I've lost. It's over

2007-12-28 17:20:20

Just wanted to update you all.
I heard from Tallahassee and the legal board found in favor of the
insurance. I lose and they win and now it's over.
I don't get my surgery.
Vicky

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] I'm home and doing okay

2007-12-28 12:50:36

cmi-Hi there! I had my surgery on Wedmesday, and home Friday...I am feeling
pretty well, just achy and tired. Hope you feel better soon, sherri...what sorts
of liquids are you doing?

Any Powell/Lourie patients or BCBS PPO experience???

2007-12-28 05:23:16

Hi all,
I'm going for a consult next Tuesday, Sept 30 with Dr. Wes
Powell in Pasadena. They have done over 1200 surgeries and
specialize in the lap procedure. Any of you have any
experience with him or his partner, Lourie?? I have Blue
Cross Blue Shield PPO and am hoping to get the surgey in
January, LAP RNY.
Also, on another note, what has been your experience with
Actigall - the medicine that helps prevent gall stones?
Just looking for others who have exp w/ the docs or the
insurance company.
I am on digest so if you'd rather email me privately, I can
respond quicker. babyfemmey@... Otherwise I'll read
the digest and respond then.
Thanks!!
Kris
Los Angeles
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stayed alive.

Update on my Problems: (Long and Possible Trigger) [Jessica]

2007-12-28 03:36:16

In a message dated 9/20/03 11:20:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Update on my Problems: (Long and Possible Trigger) [Angie D]

2007-12-27 23:07:21

In a message dated 9/21/03 8:55:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Re:To Katie

2007-12-27 10:54:05

In a message dated 9/21/03 5:28:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

RE:united health care doctor in miami

2007-12-27 03:37:34

i went to cleveland clinic in weston, and united covered the surgery (with a
co-pay of course). i couldn't find enough praise for the surgeon that did
the procedure for me. he is the head of their minimally invasive surgery
unit, dr. raul rosenthal. here is the website url:
http://www.clevelandclinic.org/florida/depts/wib/default.htm
- charl cohen
lap rny
9/8/03

RE: bowel prep

2007-12-27 03:20:38

my surgeon at cleveland clinic does require pre-op prep. i was on a liquid
diet for 2 weeks before. 2 protein shakes per day, plus clear liquids
between meals. they require that to reduce the fat in the liver so it's
easier to do the surgery laproscopically. it wasn't that hard most days.
but there were days when i couldn't do it and did eat minimally. according
to the nurse, they know if you maintained that program once they get inside,
but obviously they don't require 100% compliance since they did my surgery
LAP. the day before, the bowel prep consisted of taking milk of magnesia.
that was it for prep.
- charl
lap rny
sept 8, 2003

tanya/vitamins

2007-12-26 19:20:42

i will be thinking of you,tanya,this morning,and i will say a prayer for
you.good luck with the surgery today!
i have yet another question,this time it is about vitamins.
i don't understand how i am supposed to take vitamins the first four weeks after
surgery,since i can only consume liquids.i was told not to use a liquid vitamin
supplement,because it is not complete,so i bought chewables,but i still don't
understand how i can swallow those if i am only supposed to be on liquids?is a
pill crusher the answer?what about all the other supplements like calcium and
iron and b12 etc?
thanks for your help!!
astrid -----

I'm home and doing okay

2007-12-26 18:58:11

Thank you all for your kind thoughts and prayers. They really do
help. Haven't felt like sitting in front of the computer until now,
came home on Saturday, surgery was Thursday. So far so good.
cmi517

Update (Candi) and Questions!

2007-12-26 06:14:59

OK I had my surgery on 9/8 and I have written very little since. Mostly
because the pain had really gotten me. It is getting better but has not
gone completely but I am managing better now. I am now at the two week
point and I have lost 30 pounds. Wow!! I think it was mostly water Weight
as I was retaining water very bad. But hey it had to go as well right so I
will take the loss!! :o)
Here are my questions. I really hope someone can answer.
1. Most of the pain is gone. When I had my one week check in with the
doctor I mentioned that I had one area that was much worse than the rest and
I pointed to the area on my stomach and he said that would make sense
because that was where the enter with the tool to do the stapling and it
should hurt the most. I was wondering if anyone can tell me how long this
is going to hurt?
2. I have never been told how many Calories, Carbs, and Fats I should be
getting per day. I am going to see my Dietician next week. But so far the
only thing I know for sure is to try and get 50 grams of protein. What are
limits on the rest?
3. When am I going to get my energy back????!!!!!! As I said for the most
part (exception being the pain I mentioned above) and I feeling recovered.
However I have NO energy and I feel like my strength has completely
vanished. I do manage the treadmill for 20 minutes three times a day. BUT
if there was nothing for my hands to hold on to for balance I know I would
fall right off.
I will try and post more. I am reading all of the posts but this energy
thing is making posting kinda difficult. Congrats to all who have had
surgery!! and Hang in there to all those still waiting!!...your turn will
come.
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Re: Web Sites For Our Support Person?

2007-12-26 05:21:32

Yes, I have that saved on my computer. I plan to send to all my
family members (who know) this letter. It is great and I loved
reading it. I found it the night I found Gastric Bypass Family.
Thank you!!!
Chelle
282/pre-op

Re: PLATEAU Already?!

2007-12-25 15:26:57

Hi Vickie,
40 pounds is a great start. That averages to more that 5 pounds a
week. I'm still waiting for my surgery date but I've noticed that
lots of people plateau for a week or two and then start losing again
for no explainable reason. It sounds like your doing everything ok
so I would be patient and keep being careful with what you eat and
drink and I bet before you know it you'll start losing again. By
the way, you didn't mention exercise. Are you exercising. Remember
that even though we are losing fat, when we start building muscle we
won't be showing as much of a weightloss-we'll be losing inches.
Have you been keeping track of how many inches you've lost so far?
Keep up the good work Vickie, be patient, and keep us posted:)
Bridget N.

RE: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Web Sites For Our Support Person?

2007-12-25 12:32:28

Chelle,
Try this link, you can print out a copy of it and pass it around to all
those who love you if you need to. It helped my husband.
http://www.gastricbypassfamily.com/SOthers.html
Tanya T

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] PLATEAU Already?!

2007-12-25 04:35:53

Hi Vickie, I'm six weeks and just shook off a two week plateau. From what I
ve heard this plateau is fairly common at this stage and it won't be our
last! I don't know if it had any effect but I increased my walking distance
made sure I got all my water in, and went back to protein drinks. Like you
I'm not a fan of the protein shakes, so I bought some strawberry flavor
(Sci-Fit) and mixed it in my Tangerine-Strawberry Crystal Lite. It was very
palatable (not as good as the Crystal Lite itself, but not bad). Also I
suggest watching the carbs, especially the beans. A typical cup of beans
has 15 gr. of protein but also has 38 gr. of carbs! Best of luck!
Mary
Open RNY 8/7/2003
316/275/150

Web Sites For Our Support Person?

2007-12-25 04:32:33

Does anyone know of a good web site for our support person/s or
family members? I think my dh would benefit greatly if he knew his
fears and concerns were normal. To give him some reassurance as
well at my parents, brother and cousin. They all support me 100%
but I know my dad is having a lot of fears about the surgery. I
hope he is doing some reseach himself. I worry about him the most.
Thanks for all your help!
Chelle
282/pre-op

PLATEAU Already?!

2007-12-25 02:54:49

HI all! :)
I am 7 weeks out...
I have lost 40 lbs...
I have stayed at this weight for about 2 weeks now...
Any suggestions why I am not seeing the scale going down?
I am not overeating at all...
I am drinking water and crystal light only...
I am taking vitamins/calcium daily...
Protein shakes are making me want to vomit...so I am not taking
them...only eating high protein foods(fish/beans/meat)
Any advice or help would be appreciated! :)
Thanks!
Vickie
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CHECK OUT MY AUCTIONS AT EBAY, SELLER NAME: googlymom
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Re: scared to death

2007-12-24 14:23:25

Hi Maria,
If you weren't scared, I'd be worried for you! My surgery was 8/6/03
and I can honestly tell you the hardest part for me was kissing my 2
kids (ages 2, 6) goodbye and praying to God that I'd see them again!
It's tough and it will be a hard day for you.
My pre-op weight was also 310. I'm 33 years old and was scared to
death of what kind of problems my weight was going to cause me. I am
so happy I did the surgery. The first couple weeks were a bit hard.
Everytime I'd see a burger or pizza on tv I'd have head hunger and
have to tell myself I would die if I ate something like that! You're
not going to believe how you have very little appetite and how quickly
you become full (even on soup!)
Every day has gotten easier and the 37 lbs I've lost have made it so
worth it.
I will pray for you Maria! YOu're going to do great! Keep in touch.
Jean in AZ
310/273
8/6/03 laprny

Re: Milestones

2007-12-24 13:40:12

Waaaay to go Chrissy. You have done a wonderful job on your weight
loss. I can't wait to shop in a regular womens clothing department.
Jill H.

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] back to normal

2007-12-23 22:19:54

Nora,
As far as the 'normal activity", for me it was two weeks, carefully. I am 6
weeke post op and things are back to normal. Maybe even more frequently. Good
luck on your surgery!
Debbie R.
8/7/03 RNY
286/250/150

back to normal

2007-12-23 18:13:16

i have a question. i have not had my wls yet and i have a question
for those of you that have. how long before you can get back to all
normal activities?.....and i do mean all activities!! i have only
been maried 5 years so i am wondering how long to we need to put
things off?? my weight has not exactly stoped everything, i just
don't do as much as i would like because i sometimes don't feel
attractive, even though my husband asures me that he would love me no
matter how much i weighed (i am no sure if i believe that one). but
anyway i had to ask. i really can't wait until i can put on something
really sexy for him. i rally want to go to the mall and find out what
victoria's secret is because at this time my secret is to big for her
to keep. ha ha ha
nora
pre-op
10-28-03
290/150
michigan
williams2614@...

Maria

2007-12-23 12:15:08

Maria,
I can kind of relate to how you are feeling. Although I do not have three
children and a hubby depending on me, I do remember being very scared. It is
scary to make the decision to go into surgery. And as anyone can tell you,
there is always a risk associated with having surgery; however, the mortality
rate
is very very low. Sometimes there are complications, but they are usually
rather minor and/or easily treatable.
Like you, I was 310lbs on the day of my surgery. I did not have any other
real comorbities, but it was only a matter of time. My surgery was 7 months
ago, and I have no regrets. I made it through with no comlications. It was
very
painful in the beginning (I had open), but it got better every day. To date,
I have lost 111lbs, it is a wonderful feeling. I still have a ways to go,
but I feel wonderful, and it really has not been hard for me at all. I know
some people struggle, count calories, carbs and all of that....but I haven't
done
much of anything different. I have made different food choices (obviously)
because pasta/bread fills you up so much quicker than some other stuff and has
no nutritional value...but I still have some pasta..and an occasional garlic
breadstick (well couple bites) The biggest difference has been the amount I've
been able to eat. But I still do all the same things I did pre-op, and I can
still drink alcohol and soda (although only a little b/c it really probably
isn't good for you and isn't recommeded by your doc). Thats not to say it is
easy...it is a big adjustment at first, but you can certainly do it, and still
feel like a normal person when your out with friends or your family...even
though that may take time. Best of luck to you, and you will be in my thoughts,
I hope everything goes well for you.
Chrissy
OpenRNY 02/19/03
310.8/199.7

Hi Cheryl

2007-12-23 07:59:43

Yes Cheryl you have to do it for yourself. I am glad I told the old fart. But it
will show how much I love him not to be like him to want to live and be there to
take care of them when the time is right. Good Luck with your meeting. It's
going to be along road ahead of you. I told them when all the test were back. So
that way I could tell them every test was taken.
Joyce MI
11/12/03

2 YEARS, Stacy ? omg !

2007-12-22 21:40:55

Stacy,
You have been waiting 2 years? omg! I don't know how you did it! I am just
starting out and I hope to God that it does not take 2 years of fighting with
ins. companies! I would be all p*ssed off and swearing at them all the time -
wouldn't be too nice. (I would call them when I am PMS'ing, lol, just to be a
bitch - everyone says to watch out for the "quiet" ones and boy is that the
truth!).
Anyways, I am SOOO happy for you. Did you cry? I would've !!
Keep us up to date, k?
Take care,
Newbie Cheryl

Good luck, Tanya

2007-12-22 20:37:49

Tanya,
I wish you luck and I will say some prayers for you tonite. Please email us
to let us know how you are doing, k? But, after you start feeling better, that
is!
Take care,
Cheryl

Hi, Joyce

2007-12-22 18:50:43

Joyce,
Wow! That kinda sounds like my Mom & Dad! I haven't told them anything
about me wanting to have surgery. And, I don't think I am going to - they would
freak out like your's did.
I think it's great how strong you are. Yes, you have to do it FOR YOURSELF
and nobody should tell you any differently!
I am schedule for my first support meeting Nov. 4th and I am both nervous
and excited.
Good luck to you, and keep your chin up!
Cheryl

That is Wonderful, Chrissy !

2007-12-22 10:29:49

Chrissy,
I just loved what you wrote down for why you are so greatful for WLS.
Congratulations on your weight loss!
I am close to you, weight wise, so hearing your story made me smile and
daydream about going into the misses size of a store and picking out a nice
outfit and say, "Yes! It WILL fit me!" Instead of the opposite right now. I
take a size 24 - depressing!
I have my first support meeting on Nov. 4th, and I am both nervous and
excited about it.
Take care,
Cheryl

sick baby is in need

2007-12-22 05:29:46

Please post this in the newsletter and to everyone you know. I want to see a
miracle in this crisis. HARLEY IS MY SON'S COUSIN, SO I KNOW FOR SURE THAT HIS
BABY IS REALLY SICK AND NEEDS PRAYERS FOR HEALING. Harley lives in Kingston
Springs, Tennessee with mom and brother.
Miss. Harley Elizabeth Sale
Age 4 months.
Harley was born May 15, 2003 and has been disgnosed with Juvenile Monomyelocytic
Leukemia. Her doctors are currently searching the donor registry for a match for
a bone marrow transplant, as her mother and two brothers have been ruled out. To
complicate the situation, Lori (mom) is a single parent. Harley's father was
tragically killed a few months into the pregnancy.
Several fundraisers are being held by family members and friends that have a
love and concern for this precious baby girl. The events includes various yard
sales, special all day benefits including live music, food, a cake walk, kid's
activities, as well as a silent
auction using donations from local business, friends and family. In honor of
Harley, the events are being held at the City Park in Pegram and other locations
in Nashville area. We are trying to raise money for the transplant operation and
to give help to the family during this crisis. Lori (mom) has had to quit work
to take care of her baby. She has to have $100,000 before chemo can be started
on the little girl. Vanderbilt will be performing the surgery. Chemo is first
and than the transplant.
At last week's benefit at the park, Stella Pardon Dolly's sister) came and sung
and donated all her sales from the CD's that day to the benefit. There were
other artists that did the same.
If you are willing to make a monetary contribution, *DONATIONS CAN BE MADE TO
THE BENEFIT FUND FOR HARLEY SALE at any AmSouth Bank in the Nashville area. I
have been told that a receipt with your name will be provided by the bank. If
you don't live in the Nashville, TN
area, and if you have a AmSouth Bank in your area, check to see if the donation
can be made at your bank in your area. It is listed as Harley Sale Fund.
If you do not have a AmSouth Bank in your area and wish to make donation, you
can send to my post office. (NO CASH PLEASE) Please make the check payable to
HARLEY SALE FUND %AmSouth Bank and write on the back side FOR DEPOSIT ONLY. A
receipt with thank you card and a picture of little Harley will be mailed back
to you as soon as we receive the donations.
Thanks and God bless everyone!
Please contact me at jasongodzson@a... .
J Randall
% Harley Sale Fund
P. O. Box 623
Burns, TN 37029
NEW IDEAS ON HOW TO RAISE THIS MONEY TO HELP WITH THE SURGERY IS APPRECIATED.
MOST OF ALL PRAYERS......GOD IS THE HEALER AND I ASK THAT EACH OF YOU PRAY THAT
HIS HEALING FOR THIS BABY BE SOON. SHE IS A SWEETIE. I HAVE THE NEWSPAPER
ARTICLE WITH HER LITTLE PICTURE ON IT AND SHE IS A DOLL. I CRIED WHEN I SAW THE
PICTURE AND READ THE STORY ABOUT ALL THIS. I KNEW ABOUT IT, BUT IT TOUCHED MY
HEART WHEN I HAD TO READ THE
STORY AND SAW THAT SWEET SMILE WITH THAT TUBE DOWN HER NOSE INTO HER LITTLE
STOMACH. GOD, PLEASE HEAL MY LITTLE NIECE. SHE IS SO PRECIOUS!!!!!
Blessings to all,
TNjen
HAPPY HOLIDAYS ALL!!! www.SeedsOfKindness.com
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Astird family

2007-12-21 20:07:57

I told my parents on the phone. They live in another state. They thought I
should be with them every minute of the day. I couldn't breath back in Jan. My
mother had two heart attacks. I couldn't be at the hospital with her when she
had the surgery but I was there the next day. I fell a sleep twice going to
Ohio. Seeing my mother there in the bed I thought to myself do I want to put my
kids thru this. Do I want to be like my parents. Heart trouble, diabetes, High
blood pressure, High Cholesterol, Knee problems and falling asleep at the top of
a hat? Do I really want this time of life? Trying to find a way to pay for all
the medicine I have to have to stay alife. I went to the bath room and I pass a
mirror. I cried and cried. I am going to do something with my life.
When I finally got the papers from the WLS down state I called them. They told
me they no longer took Bc/Bs patients. The last part of April I went to my
family doctor and told her. To make a story short. My parents wanted me to come
down in July for my dads b/d. I called and told them I was going into the
hospital for a sleep disorder. They told me why do you want to do that. I said I
can't sleep nights and I am tired all the time. Than they wanted me to go come
down for the reunion. I told them I couldn't cause I had to go into the hospital
for a heart cater. Which they found something wrong with my heart. (Which the
doctors did tell me that). They were find with that. My dad said well you will
be like one of us. Get that.
Well I found out my heart was great but they pinched a nerve in my leg and I
couldn't walk for 24 hours. My parents was upset but they said my legs would
come back. And they did but I am having problems with my right knee still. I
told my parents in August that I was doing with all these test. They blow up. My
dad wouldn't talk to me. Heck they never came up here to my place to see me
anyways.
So in August I told my cousin on the internet here that I was having the
surgery. She told me she already had hers back in June. I was thrilled to hear
it.
She lost so far since September 65 lbs. She is my angel.
So when I called my parents and told them I was coming down next week my dad
jumped up one side of me down the other about just pulling myself away from the
table. He was fat and he was going to stay that way. Nothing was going to change
him. Being Cut on is enough why would I want to do it. I said my health dad.
That didn't work he hung up on me. I cried again. Than I said the heck with it.
I am 50 yrs old. Overweight, and getting bad health. I want to walk again
without pain. The pills I am taking are high price. I don't my new hubby to have
to care for me when I get older. I don't want to be in a wheel chair. I want to
WALK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And if they can't deal with it. It's their problem. My
folks is the type to say I told you so if anything goes wrong. Well I made it
this far with out anything going wrong and I am going to have this SURGERY. Do
it for yourself. I found out when you listen to ppl talk you get hurt really
hard when your as big as us. Now it's time we grow up
(learning the right way to eat), and NOT out (fighting all the time to lose
weight with our bodies).
Joyce MI
11/12/03

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Milestones

2007-12-21 18:18:47

Chrissy,
congratulations :) and keep up the great work!!
Doesn't it feel awesome to go the that clothes rack in the store... I still find
myself going to the plus size section .. and I laugh to myself as i mosy over to
the misses section.
I cant wait till I get to the point where I am comfortable enough to walk into
Victoria Secrets and know it will fit .. know it will now, but for some reason,
still see myself not in the size that I am .. I myself have gone for a 28/30 to
any where from a 16 to a 10 depending on the style and the quality. Love your
list of things to be greatful for :)
Keep up the great Job!!!!
Ruth
Post op Open RNY
386/204/???
Oct 29,2002
MA
badgrl21f@... wrote:
Hi everyone! I haven't posted in a long time, sorry about that. Things have
been pretty crazy between work and school, but I had an exciting event today
and want to share. I said goodbye to the 200's on my scale this morning and
greeted 199 (okay 199.7 but it counts!)I'm not where I want to be yet (about
another 50lbs or so) but that goal is getting closer to becoming reality. I
can't remember the last time I was under 200, not even in high school.
The past 7 months has been an incredible journey. There have definitely been
some ups and downs, but I feel I have grown so much and accomplished so much.
I've gone from a 26-28 to a size 16. For my birthday last week my mom gave
me a $200 gift card to Dillards so I could get some new clothes, which I
desperately needed. I bought everything from the "regular" sized clothing
section,
and it was an incredible feeling! I think this was even more significant to
me than when I hit the 100lb mark. I hope never to see the 200's on my scale
again!!!
Why I'm greatful for my WLS:
1. Finding my collar bone! Yes, I have one :)
2. getting reacquainted with my feet (which are now 1 1/2 sizes smaller!)
3. discovering I really do have ankles, and they're kinda pretty :)
4. SHOPPING
5. discovering I'm not really invisible to the opposite sex..just
underappreciated..lol
6. Being able to do weights and walk a mile in an hour and not be winded
7. Flirting with a random guy at Home Depot...just b/c I can
8. A new perspective on life
9. LIFE
10. seeing the person emerge from hiding I always knew was there..
Postage mailing all the forms to the insurance company (three times)- $5
Weight Loss Surgery- $28,000
Baby Food,protein drinks, and supplements-$300
Losing 111lbs in 7 months--PRICELESS!
Chrissy
Open RNY 02/19/03
310.8/199.7

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] scared to death

2007-12-21 15:05:27

Maria,
It is one of the most scariest things you will probably ever do in your life.
First you have to trust in your surgeon, and second you have to trust in
yourself and in God. Let me explain that .. I am not an overly religious
person, but if it were not for God watching over me I dont think I would have
ever made it through. Trust in the support of your husband talk to him about
all your fears, this helped me so much. There is that minute chance, but if as
you say you dont have any health issues, you should fly through with no problem.
Go to a support group if there is one near you .. hear how you are definately
not alone in your fears, this helped me out so much .. preop. Even though I
heard som really bad things, I also heard so many positive ones that I knew I
made the right choise.
What to expect .. its so different for everyone. For me, I went in knowing
that they were going to make my stomach to the size of an egg, by pass the small
intestine to the top of the stomach and re attach it to the lower end. That was
all I wanted to know, I had seen diagrams of the procedure and has faith in my
surgeon. On that day, all I remember is going to the hospital, going to pre op
and getting ready.. once they finally got my wedding band off, which took over
an hour .. I was given a shot and from there I dont remember anything but waking
up in my room later that day. My husband was there .. I remember feeling very
groggy and not in much pain .. thank goodness for the morphine drip .. each day
in the hospital was better than the next. I had no complications .. used the
morphine only when I felt I had too.. actually got yelled at by the nurses for
not using it enough. The day before I was released, they took the morphine away
and started giving me liquid pain meds, which
I would continue at home. I came home on Friday, stopped taking the pain meds
by monday .. and the only thing that bothered me really were my staples. I was
very tired for the first few weeks, took naps everyday. But I made sure that I
also got out and walked. I would drop my kids off at school in the AM go to the
mall and walk. First time went half way around and back .. then each day I
would walk a little further, till the 9th week I was out and getting ready to
head back to work I was walking the 2 levels of the Mall I went too 3 times
around each floor, with out breathing heavy and without having any leg or hip
pain. As I said, everyone is different ..
As to what I would eat, blended foods, for the first 4 weeks. But that was what
my surgeon wanted me to do. There are others who say you should only have
liquids for the first 2 weeks .. you should really check with your surgeon, and
nutritionist.
Take care and know that you are doing this for yourself first to be healthy and
second for those you love including and probably mostly your kids :)
Ruth
postop Open RNY
386/204/???
Oct 29,2002
MA
curkids3 <curkids3@...
Hi everyone,
my name is maria and i'am having surgery on oct 1, 2003
in NY with Dr Gadaleta at nsch. I have 3 small children and are
afraid of dying. Can someone please give me some comfort about what
to expect. My husband is very supportive and i did not tell anyone
else due to not wanting to hear everyone's comments. I need to know
that iam not going to die that day. My kids need me and i need them.
i have no health issues expect that iam 310 lbs and if i don't get
this done i'am probley going to die from being so obese. Just in
general speaking with my SKINNY friends they say people are crazy who
get this done because they attach the rectom to your throat???
Someone else said that they have heard of scar tissue growing around
the intestines and dying from that in less that 10 years post op. So
this is why i have no one to speak about this with. I need to have a
little education on what vitiams take and what to eat the first
month. MOst of all i need to know what happens the day of??? Iam
soooo frightened. i cry everyday my children want to know why i
always cry and i feel like i am losing my mind. Sometimes i feel
like i just want to close my eyes and wish that oct 1 was over and i
lived through it. but then realty sets in and iam still fat and
getting fatter and no one understands how i feel expect all of you
guys. I cannot stay this way any longer and i am willing to take
this chance. PLease let me know what i have in store for me after and
before. Thanks
Regards Maria

Milestones

2007-12-21 08:23:29

Hi everyone! I haven't posted in a long time, sorry about that. Things have
been pretty crazy between work and school, but I had an exciting event today
and want to share. I said goodbye to the 200's on my scale this morning and
greeted 199 (okay 199.7 but it counts!)I'm not where I want to be yet (about
another 50lbs or so) but that goal is getting closer to becoming reality. I
can't remember the last time I was under 200, not even in high school.
The past 7 months has been an incredible journey. There have definitely been
some ups and downs, but I feel I have grown so much and accomplished so much.
I've gone from a 26-28 to a size 16. For my birthday last week my mom gave
me a $200 gift card to Dillards so I could get some new clothes, which I
desperately needed. I bought everything from the "regular" sized clothing
section,
and it was an incredible feeling! I think this was even more significant to
me than when I hit the 100lb mark. I hope never to see the 200's on my scale
again!!!
Why I'm greatful for my WLS:
1. Finding my collar bone! Yes, I have one :)
2. getting reacquainted with my feet (which are now 1 1/2 sizes smaller!)
3. discovering I really do have ankles, and they're kinda pretty :)
4. SHOPPING
5. discovering I'm not really invisible to the opposite sex..just
underappreciated..lol
6. Being able to do weights and walk a mile in an hour and not be winded
7. Flirting with a random guy at Home Depot...just b/c I can
8. A new perspective on life
9. LIFE
10. seeing the person emerge from hiding I always knew was there..
Postage mailing all the forms to the insurance company (three times)- $5
Weight Loss Surgery- $28,000
Baby Food,protein drinks, and supplements-$300
Losing 111lbs in 7 months--PRICELESS!
Chrissy
Open RNY 02/19/03
310.8/199.7

Need for a baby!

2007-12-20 16:33:57

HARLEY IS MY SON'S COUSIN, SO I KNOW FOR SURE THAT HIS BABY IS REALLY
SICK AND NEEDS PRAYERS FOR HEALING. Harley lives in Kingston
Springs, Tennessee with mom and brother.
Miss. Harley Elizabeth Sale, age 4 months.
Harley was born May 15, 2003 and has been disgnosed with Juvenile
Monomyelocytic Leukemia. Her doctors are currently searching the
donor registry for a match for a bone marrow transplant, as her
mother and two brothers have been ruled out. To complicate the
situation, Lori (mom) is a single parent. Harley's father was
tragically killed a few months into the pregnancy.
Several fundraisers are being held by family members and friends that
have a love and concern for this precious baby girl. The events
includes various yard sales, special all day benefits including live
music, food, a cake walk, kid's activities, as well as a silent
auction using donations from local business, friends and family. In
honor of Harley, the events are being held at the City Park in Pegram
and other locations in Nashville area. We are trying to raise money
for the transplant operation and to give help to the family during
this crisis. Lori (mom) has had to quit work to take care of her
baby. She has to have $100,000 before chemo can be started on the
little girl. Vanderbilt will be performing the surgery. Chemo is
first and than the transplant.
At last week's benefit at the park, Stella Pardon (Dolly's sister)
came and sung and donated all her sales from the CD's that day to the
benefit. There were other artists that did the same.
If you are willing to make a monetary contribution, *DONATIONS CAN BE
MADE TO THE BENEFIT FUND FOR HARLEY SALE at any AmSouth Bank in the
Nashville area. I have been told that a receipt with your name will
be provided by the bank. If you don't live in the Nashville, TN
area, and if you have a AmSouth Bank in your area, check to see if
the donation can be made at your bank in your area. It is listed as
Harley Sale Fund.
If you do not have a AmSouth Bank in your area and wish to make
donation, you can send to my post office. (NO CASH PLEASE) Please
make the check payable to HARLEY SALE FUND %AmSouth Bank and write on
the back side FOR DEPOSIT ONLY.
A receipt with thank you card and a picture of little Harley will be
mailed back to you as soon as we receive the donations. Thanks and
God bless everyone!
Please contact me at jasongodzson@a... .
J Randall
% Harley Sale Fund
P. O. Box 623
Burns, TN 37029
NEW IDEAS ON HOW TO RAISE THIS MONEY TO HELP WITH THE SURGERY IS
APPRECIATED.
MOST OF ALL PRAYERS......GOD IS THE HEALER AND I ASK THAT EACH OF YOU
PRAY THAT HIS HEALING FOR THIS BABY BE SOON. SHE IS A SWEETIE. I
HAVE THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE WITH HER LITTLE PICTURE ON IT AND SHE IS A
DOLL. I CRIED WHEN I SAW THE PICTURE AND READ THE STORY ABOUT ALL
THIS. I KNEW ABOUT IT, BUT IT TOUCHED MY HEART WHEN I HAD TO READ THE
STORY AND SAW THAT SWEET SMILE WITH THAT TUBE DOWN HER NOSE INTO HER
LITTLE STOMACH. GOD, PLEASE HEAL MY LITTLE NIECE. SHE IS SO
PRECIOUS!!!!!
Blessings to all,
TNjen

Where do you get your Atkins bars?

2007-12-20 09:21:10

Those of you that eat Atkins Advantage bars... have you found a cheap place
online to get them? Walmart has them for around $1.90 a bar and the flavors are
limited... boxes are just under $9.00 but they only have 1-2 flavors. I am
looking to buy a large quantity of them.. several boxes of 15. Know of any
places online with coupons that will average them out to $1.50 a bar or
less?????
thanks!!
Heather
ourkidsmom@...
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scared to death

2007-12-20 06:00:05

Hi everyone,
my name is maria and i'am having surgery on oct 1, 2003
in NY with Dr Gadaleta at nsch. I have 3 small children and are
afraid of dying. Can someone please give me some comfort about what
to expect. My husband is very supportive and i did not tell anyone
else due to not wanting to hear everyone's comments. I need to know
that iam not going to die that day. My kids need me and i need them.
i have no health issues expect that iam 310 lbs and if i don't get
this done i'am probley going to die from being so obese. Just in
general speaking with my SKINNY friends they say people are crazy who
get this done because they attach the rectom to your throat???
Someone else said that they have heard of scar tissue growing around
the intestines and dying from that in less that 10 years post op. So
this is why i have no one to speak about this with. I need to have a
little education on what vitiams take and what to eat the first
month. MOst of all i need to know what happens the day of??? Iam
soooo frightened. i cry everyday my children want to know why i
always cry and i feel like i am losing my mind. Sometimes i feel
like i just want to close my eyes and wish that oct 1 was over and i
lived through it. but then realty sets in and iam still fat and
getting fatter and no one understands how i feel expect all of you
guys. I cannot stay this way any longer and i am willing to take
this chance. PLease let me know what i have in store for me after and
before. Thanks
Regards Maria

Re: need good dr. under united healthcare in miami

2007-12-20 04:57:36

Not sure if he takes your ins but Dr de la Cruz-Munoz is wonderful!
305-856-4385 he works out of Mercy Hospital.
Pamela
11/19/02
140 lbs gone!!
Miami

Jamie, my "twin"

2007-12-20 02:44:35

Hi Jamie, That is so cool to have a "twin". It's really nice to know
that I have someone who will be crossing over to the losing side at
the same time. I pray that we both have an uneventful surgery and a
speedy recovery.
Chris
Marietta, GA
preop 10/13/03
Lap RNY
280/ /150

Re: thanks//astrid

2007-12-19 14:26:21

hey astrid. sorry about your mil; if you all attended ww together,
then she must have SOME idea what a struggle it is. i never listen
to naysayers, though i kinda convinced everyone when the weight
disappeared. perhaps she'll come around after your transformation,
pls don't let her get to ya.
oh & to answer your ?, i told everyone about surg, there were only a
couple of co-workers that had a mixture of skepticism & concern.
the rest were great. my family accepted & supported me, really, they
had no choice, it's tough to find someone more strong-willed than me.
lori h.

Re: welcome katie///water aerobics

2007-12-19 06:50:32

thanx so much;-)
tried another form of exercise after bing invited by a couple of
weight watcher ladies. water aerobics was a bunch of fun &
different. we used these syrofoams barbells to work the triceps &
biceps, jogged in place, awesome!! easy on the joints, can't wait to
go back.
lori h.

To Katie

2007-12-19 06:00:54

Katie,
Hi! I somewhat know what you are going thru. I have been diagnosed with PTSD
with panic attacks and flashbacks. I was diagnosed a year ago. Back in July, I
was found disabled by the state.
Are you on meds? I take a generic Prozac (Fluoxetine), Hydroxyzine, and
Trazodone (for sleep). I see a shrink once a month, and I have been on a
waiting list to see a therapist for one-on-one and a support group for 4 months.
Yep! I called on Thursday and complained to the head huncho about it. (That
took a lot for me to do!)
As far as the nurse is concerned, I understand, lol ! I have my 1st meeting set
up for Nov. 4th. (Mind you, it took me 4 days to get up the nerve to call and
set up the appt.!) When I got thru, a nurse asked me some basic questions and
then said, "Well, if you want to come to the meeting, it's ok. But, it's a
waste of your time because you don't meet the requirements." I asked her what
she meant. She basically said I wasn't fat enough! I made the appt. anyways
and asked for directions. She said them so fast that I asked her to repeat it.
Boy, she was p*ssed! I hung up the phone and cried my eyes out for 1/2 an hour!
Is there another dr. in your area? Have you tried looking on O.H? It's a good
site.
Katie, I know how hard it is. You just have to take 1 hour by 1 hour, day by
day. And, give yourself a pat on your back for getting thru the day. It may
sound stupid, but sometimes I smile.
If you want, you can contact me directly, ok?
You take care,
Cheryl

Bowel prep

2007-12-18 21:08:43

Dear Joann,
My surgeon (over 24 years specializing in bariatrics and over 3000
surgeries) does not require a bowel prep, nor does he require any change in
eating prior to surgery. He knows our eating will be dramatically different
post-op so he doesn't torture us pre-op. He only hopes we don't gain too
much weight between consult and surgery date (because the wait can be for
months). Good luck with your upcoming surgery.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/221/165
BMI 60/32.6/24
-165
-92.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

need good dr. under united healthcare in miami

2007-12-18 20:24:06

can anyone recommend a good dr. in the miami area please? my dr. tried to
scam me and after receiving my approval letter he happened to remember that he
wasn't covered under my ins. plan and it would be $5000 out of my pocket.
i'm covered under united healthcare.
thanks,

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Laughing WE ARE GROWING UP NOT OUT

2007-12-18 12:47:30

OH MY GOD GIRL I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. I NEVER EVER DISCUSSED MY WEIGHT WITH
ANYONE. NOT EVEN MY HUSBAND. I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT I WAS ALONE IN THIS BATTLE OF
WEIGHT LOSS. WHAT WAS MORE FRUSTRATING THAN ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME WAS LOSING THE
WEIGHT AND BUYING CLOTHES ONLY TO FIND AFTER ABOUT 6 MONTHS THAT THEY DO NOT FIT
ANYMORE. AND I WOULD FEEL LIKE SUCH A LOSER. I KNOW THAT MY FAMILY LOVES ME AND
MY HUSBAND SAID THAT IT DID NOT MATTER WHAT SIZE I WAS (I MEAN I WAS A SIZE 18
WHEN WE WERE MARRIED 5 YEARS AGO NOW I'M A 22 ON A GOOD DAY) I STILL FELT SO
BAD. I WAS STARTING TO GET TO THE POINT THAT I DID NOT REALLY WANT TO GO TO ANY
FUCTIONS BECAUSE I DID NOT LIKE THE WAY THAT I WAS LOOKING. I KNOW THAT THIS
SURGERY WILL HELP ME FEEL SO MUCH BETTER.
NORA
PRE-OP
290/150
MICHIGAN
WILLIAMS2614@...

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Update on my Problems: (Long and Possible Trigger)

2007-12-18 06:30:58

I'm just curious.......are you on Meds for your disorder and if you are, are
you taking them? I have a friend who is Bi-Polar and Schitzophrenic and she
is perfectly fine if she takes he meds. But, if she does not, she has all
kinds of issues. The thing with my friend is that she takes her meds up until
she
feels "normal" then she decides she doesn't need them anymore and I've tried
to tell her "sarah, you have to take your meds, they are the reason you feel
ok" Just thought I'd ask. I'm sure you'll be fine and we are all here on your
side. Your nurse needs to get a little bedside manner!
Jessica in MI
340/Pre-Op

Re: welcome katie

2007-12-17 21:43:42

Thank you so much. I'll keep y'all posted. I'm not really going in with a
lot of records, just a letter from my pcp and the medical history that they
require. However, I have an appointment with my gynie this Thursday, and
I'll get my records from her if necessary (I have a longer relationship
wiith her than anyone else). I'm very lucky in that not only is my surgeon
well thought of, but his office and the hospital are only a 5 minute drive
from my house, so I can easily hand deliver anything else they may need (and
hopefully the distance will be a factor in keeping the hospital stay short).
I've enjoyed your posts so much and I keep learning more and more...
Katie
Consult 9-23-03
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt
Message: 25
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:39:43 -0000
From: "wlslori" <wlslori@...
Subject: welcome katie
have a great consult!
lori h.

Update on my Problems: (Long and Possible Trigger)

2007-12-17 13:47:13

Hi everyone,
First of all, as you can possibly see, I have cross posted this to a
few of my groups. I needed to do this. I hope you will accept that
and allow me my therapy and help. Please forgive me if I come across
angry, snitty or confused along with repetitious at this time,
because I really am in a predicament that is causing me stress and in
that is causing me to want to go back to behaviours that I still have
not gotten under control and that I still have not full recovered
from, though it's been months now (since May) with the last
reoccurance of things become "bad" over the past three to four
weeks.
The thing that really has me down right now is the fact that later on
today is my bariatric surgeon's nurse's monthly support group. They
are a structured group and we discuss structured things. The only
thing is - and to some of you I mentioned this - so again - bear with
me - I don't feel I get any real support...from the other patients,
whether in the program before or after me, from the nurse, or from
the doctor (really the doctor is a greater possibility, it's just
catching him in time to really talk and let him know how I am feeling
and what I am doing and what he feels I should do or get some
POSITIVE and CARING and YES, SYMPATHETIC, feedback.) When I try
speaking to the nurse, well for example, the last time all she said
was, in a demanding, raised, irritated voice, (not a direct
quote) "You know hurting or killing yourself is not the answer." I
know that, I understand that, but that is not what my mind is
accepting - if any of you understand, and I hope you do - because
I've tried pleasing people, still do, and I've tried helping people,
still do...and I only usually end up being trampled on. The other
thing is, it's the same way with my mother. I remember even she said
to me once (not a direct quote) "You're not getting any sympathy from
me." What I need, or feel I need, is compassion, love, caring
support, not a raised, demanding, harsh, irritated voice from someone
who I - think I am to and do - look up to. So later on today, I risk
going into the same atmosphere as last month, and the months before.
For those of you who don't know, I suffer mental illnesses (as this
is being sent to some groups that do not deal with mental
illnesses). Obsessive Compulsive, Phobic, Panic, Post Traumatic
Stress, Borderline Personality Disorders and then my main (or what
they in the psychiatric fields call "Axis") diagnosis is
Schizoaffective Disorder. Just so you can all get a feel that I
suffer from many things, and am coming from a long list of problems
that I must learn to deal with and/or cure.
The funny thing is the my mother and the bariatric surgeon's nurse
are both psychiatric nurses! So I don't know why they treat me like
this. For my mother, perhaps it's painful to see me suffer - I just
don't know. I have tried to ask her what she thinks my problem is.
Well the one thing that both of these women seem to have in common is
the thought that I need to grow up. !!! That is something that
totally angers me and blows me away !!! And why? Because while yes,
I mope and I am depressed and I suffer and I binge eat to satisfy my
stress with the hopes of dying - after all it does make me feel
better when I eat sweets - and I do not really do anything at all at
home - except sleep and sometimes wash dishes and do my own laundry -
and other activities take the form of either "living" here on the
internet and AIM, going to partial, which in honesty is kind of
starting over again due to the fact that I've gotten in one good
session where a lot of emotion came out and then I was running away -
not going - because I didn't want to face those feelings, those
thoughts, those facts about my horrible and abusive life up to just
recently.
As of yesterday I started exercising again, for 45 minutes, primarily
working on my thights, buttocks and abdomen. I am going to hopefully
encorporate another exercise workout in the evening (since I have the
time, I am on disability) which is primarily bellydancing steps and
instruction. The sugar though I cut down on, but did not lay off of
entirely. And after writing this, after reading more of a book that
I purchased " I HATE YOU - Don't Leave Me - Understanding the
Borderline Personality " by Jerold J. Kreisman, M. D. and Hal
Straus which is great because I recognize a lot of me in the
descriptions given in the book (and I am only on page 65), but
frustrated me because I also recognized bits of my family and how I
was treated by other people in there (again taking me down "memory
lane" which I'd love to cut and dig up!!), and knowing about the
support group, in which I need my B-12 shot, so I should go, I only
feel like running - I don't know if I want to go to the support
group - and face MORE rejection and "bad" scrutiny with uncaring eyes
and tones of voice. Also then the frustration of another day with my
mother asking a hundred times "where are you going" and acting like I
am both a child and need to be kept on a very short leash. Though, I
admit, I do in a way, because eating/spending are my two habitual
ways of dealing with all of these problems - and are addictions as
well.
Thank you for listening.
I know I need help.
I just don't love myself.
And I don't feel I'm deserving of love.
I yet contradictorily know I deserve love,
And also need and deserve help and a better life.
Take care, be well, much love.
~ Katie
PS: At the time of writing this, it was early morning, but due to
some glitch in AOL's sending or allowing the e-mails to be sent I
didn't get a chance to send this off until the evening because I had
to come in and personally send it to each group I wanted it to go
to. As it stands now, I did pretty good I guess, I had a small
breakfast with too many carbohydrates, and that is not good, but at
the same time I was a bit more controlled portion wise. I ate my
protein first and only about what would be 1 or less the equivelent
of a piece of french toast cinnamon roll (Ruby Tuesday's). I did my
morning exercises and I feel pretty good. I actually saw a change in
my body for the best. Now I know if I cut out the sugar all together
I'll see a greater increase for the good of my body and in the shape
of my body. As for the support group, I did not go. I was just
determined not to put myself back into an abusive, or possibly
abusive, situation. I will talk with the doctor either in October
when is my appointment or if he respects my request for him to call
me. I will be calling the office Monday to have a message written
and then left on his voice mail for me. This behavior from his nurse
will not go unnoticed or unspoken about. It's plain rediculous.
I've got too many other things on my plate to worry about than a
nurse who is radical and seems to care more about her clique of
patients. Again, thank you.

No bowel prep?

2007-12-17 13:12:06

I am having my sugery Nov 18th and my dr said no food only clear liquids and
still do a bowel prep also, id be a little worried if you where not getting a
bowel prep, just cuz i know stool can still be in the bowel even after 24
hours of no food. I wish you all the best of luck, i hope it all goes
well...Amanda in Wichita

No bowel prep?

2007-12-16 23:08:30

yes, i would do it on my own - i would tell them the morning of surgery
though that i did it. its OTC by the pharmacist - not prescription - just
drink tons of water b4 MN to prevent dehydration - that makes it more
difficult to get the IV in --
Tanya
visit our website
www.geocities.com/tanyarn96/countryside.html
www.poncetihomes.com

Laughing WE ARE GROWING UP NOT OUT

2007-12-16 22:38:49

I am setting here laughing. I haven't had the surgery yet. I have to say this.
As I read these email I am thinking to myself how many times have we keep our
weight a secret. Really!!!! I know I never told anyone how much I weighted. I
was so embassed about it. I didn't want anyone to know. Not even in Tops, and
the other groups I was in. Now I am telling everyone on the streets, on the
internet. I weighted 290 lbs in May and I lost 25 lbs since then and I am going
to have WLS surgery November 12 to lose for my health this time. And I am going
to keep it off. I smile while I tell ppl. I feel so happy now that it is finally
coming true I can be one that don't have the fight to try to lose weight anymore
like I did. I am eating more healthier. I won't be taking the pills like I did.
Look at us were are growing up not out.
Joyce
11/12-03

No bowel prep?

2007-12-16 09:11:11

thats true - and just ask the pharmacist - its behind the counter but you
don't need a prescription
Tanya
visit our website
www.geocities.com/tanyarn96/countryside.html
www.poncetihomes.com

No bowel prep?

2007-12-16 07:37:37

good idea - it can't hurt - KWIM.....
Tanya
visit our website
www.geocities.com/tanyarn96/countryside.html
www.poncetihomes.com

kari

2007-12-16 04:11:04

congrats on your w l! i call this phase "challenging", i never use
the word "hard". the key, imo, is re-assessing, re-focusing & self
knowledge. i've relearned to use the pouch & that too many carbs
open the floodgates.
lori h.

thanx boogie!

2007-12-16 02:17:35

thanx a billion, hunny!!
lori h.
16 months out

Re: Advice??

2007-12-15 18:41:45

ask him/her everything! how many patients, complications, risks,
benefits, follow-up appts, how many cm bypassed? you could even ask
about his/philosophy to kinda get a feel for their style.
lori h.

Re: The Midsouth Fair

2007-12-15 07:00:01

you go becky!!! keep them milestones comin'!!!!!!
lori h.

Re: ~ Calcium

2007-12-15 05:32:23

thanx!! i'll check it out, hopefully they have a 1-800 #, so i won't
have to punch in credit card info.
lori h.

welcome katie

2007-12-14 16:04:18

have a great consult!
lori h.

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] liquid potassium

2007-12-14 12:13:00

My dr. wrote a script for potassium pills for me.
Brenda

Re: No bowel prep?

2007-12-14 07:02:24

Tanya,
Would you then do a bowel prep even if your surgeon doesn't require
one, just to be on the safe side? I thought about doing it even
though I don't have to, but then was afraid it might hurt me.

Re: drumroll please

2007-12-14 01:16:03

Way to go Deb. YOu are one hot mama, aren't you? I can't wait to
be in your shoes.
Jill H.

liquid potassium

2007-12-13 20:30:47

Does anyone have to take liquid potassium? How do you get it down?
It is the nastiest stuff!! I am supposed to take 2 Tbsp twice a day
and it tastes awful even mixed with water or apple juice. It also
made my tummy feel funny and crampy. Any suggestions?? Also what do
you do for a headache? Every morning I wake up with one and still
don't feel rested, but the dull ache is persistant and the pain
pills don't seem to help it.

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] drumroll please

2007-12-13 16:45:28

Debbie,
That is Fantastic! Congratulations and how wonderful for you!Constance
"zoes.mom" <zoes.mom@...
Hey everybody,
I had my year check-up with Dr. Brolin yesterday. In addition to feeling
wonderful, in a year and two weeks, I've lost.... 165 lbs.! How awesome is
this????????
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/221/165
BMI 60/32.6/24
-165
-92.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

drumroll please

2007-12-13 13:28:51

Hey everybody,
I had my year check-up with Dr. Brolin yesterday. In addition to feeling
wonderful, in a year and two weeks, I've lost.... 165 lbs.! How awesome is
this????????
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/221/165
BMI 60/32.6/24
-165
-92.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] No bowel prep?

2007-12-13 03:40:12

My surgical date is Oct. 20, and my surgeon told me that he doesn't require
a bowel prep (laxitives or enemas to clean out the bowel). I was happy to
hear that at the time, but now I wonder why it isn't necessary when the
surgery involves the bowel. As a nurse, I know that even a tiny bit of
fecal matter let loose in the abdominal cavity can cause BIG problems. Have
you had surgery without any bowel prep? I will be on clear liquid for 24
hours pre-op, but that isn't enough to have a clean bowel. Thanks.

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] More questions

2007-12-13 02:40:01

Michelle,
I did not have my gallbladder removed, but during surgery my sugeon discovered
an umbillica (sp) hernia and repaired that.
Debbie R., WI
RNY 8/7/03
286/250/150

Re: nervous

2007-12-12 12:26:00

Nora,
That's just how I felt. The process is so long, I think for a long
time I was just focused on the details. When I finally got approved
and got a date, it was finally "real" and I got nervous. It is good
that you have some time to get ready, both physically and mentally.
I am a really emotional person, and had alot of tears the morning of
my first surgery attempt. I am definately going to ask for them to
prescribe something for me to calm me down for the few days leading
up to the surgery. You might want to think about that because I
think the surgery and healing process will go better if I go into it
without being so tense.
Please feel free to email me if you want to talk further.
Lisa

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] just got some good news ......

2007-12-12 09:53:02

That is wonderful. Good LUck and God Bless :)
ROBIN, NEW YORK
AGE-41
OPEN RNY
OCT. 18TH, 2002
DR. EDWARD HIXSON
SARANAC LAKE, NY
378/246/170???
132 LBS GONE FOREVER : )
What a GREAT feeling : )

More questions

2007-12-12 01:06:59

I am wondering if anyone here is from western Washington. I have my
first consult at the the University of Washington on Monday, only
game in town that takes Medicare, and was wondering if anyone has
gone through them.
Also, has anyone had anything else done in addition to the bypass at
the same time, other than gallbladder, which I heard is common. I
have a hernia right down my front (strangulated fat only), and
wondered if they take care of that also at the same time?
Anyone got any ideas?
boogie

Re: met the surgeon

2007-12-11 19:55:09

Of all the tests, a sleep test is probably the easiest and pain free
of them all.
I too have a serious case of apnea. I can sleep lying down, but
usually end up sitting up and sleeping. I also sleep a lot, which
the doctor said is caused by the apnea. Unfortunately it is in the
most inappropriate times, like in lecture (I'm a student), on the
road (so now I don't drive very far), and even on the phone or typing.
I am one of the few who can't use a CPAP machine, but I have heard
that they help greatly. Also a comorbitiy that the insurance co.
look for.
This is one test not to be frightened of. Take your PJ's and
favorite teddy, go there, and go to sleep.
boogie
pre op

Re: Atkins

2007-12-11 14:34:37

Just a word of caution about the Atkins diet...your new stomach
might not be able to handle as much fat as the Atkins plan allows.
My husband and I had been following Atkins for about 2-3 years, and
although I didn't lose a ton, I managed not to get any heavier than
when I started. A staple at our house was fried chicken wings.
When I tried one post-op, I got sick. I didn't throw-up, but I felt
awful for about an hour or so. Tonight, I had my first piece of
bacon. I ate a couple bites and didn't finish the rest because I
got that queesy feeling. A little later, I got a bit of the runs.
I think a modified Atkins plan could be easier on your tummy. More
fish and chicken, less of the heavier meats and fried stuff. And
don't forget...the carbs in fruits and veggies are worth eating, in
moderation of course.
Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/263.25/130?

Re: Brenda ~ Calcium

2007-12-11 12:31:03

Toi, how many of these do you take a day? The label says 5 tablets
a day will give me 1000mg of calcium. My nutritionist has me at
1200mg daily. That could get expensive, huh? Just curious what
you're taking.
Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/263.25/130?

Re: just got some good news ......

2007-12-11 06:13:40

Go ahead and jump! That is great news! I hope you get approved
soon!
Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/263.25/130?

Re: HELP! The runs.

2007-12-10 20:03:05

I had this problem too. My surgeon recommended over-the-counter
Acidophilus (Lactobacillus acidophilus)to help achieve a normal
balance of flora (healthy bacteria). I took it once a day for about
a week, and it cleared up the problem right away. Good luck!
-Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/263.25/130?

just got some good news ......

2007-12-10 12:01:47

HELLO ALL.
I Hope everyone is having a good night...
I just want to jump up and down ,But I know it will hurt to badly to do it
fighting with our inc UTU rail road inc to have this surgery .well to night my
hubby ((((got to love this man he puts up with me)))))came home and told me he
had found two guys not one but two guys with the same inc as we do that has had
this gastric bypass surgery in the last two yrs....I almost died when he told me
NOW I CAN GET THIS DONE AND BE HEALTHY AGAIN AND WALK OH MY
GOSH.............THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO ME
Stacy Lynn Beck
Petra Fashions
myhumingbird@...

HELP! The runs.

2007-12-10 09:25:43

Hi,
I had the runs for three weeks after my surgery and was found to have a
common bacterial infection due to the heavy doses of IV antibiotics.
The surgeon gave me flagyl 250 mg. tabs four times a day to get rid of
it. Those tabs are quite small and I had no difficulty swallowing them.
Also, chewing Lactinex tablets, found in your pharmacists' refrigerator,
replaces the natural lactose bacillus acidophyllus found in your healthy
digestive tract. Don't bother with the over the counter version. Those
flora are dead and can't help you. It tastes a bit like malted milk
balls. Not bad really. The antibiotics kill off the good flora as well
as the bad. (Yeah, I'm a nurse.)
Ask your doctor about it.
Good luck,
Jony
aka "Lena"

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] HELP the runs

2007-12-10 05:01:07

Hey,
I don't know if this will help or not. I have had the runs every since I got
home. I had my surgery on 9/8/03 and went home early Thur. morning. I ask my doc
about it and he said it was normal and should go away in the 3rd to 4th week. I
think it is different for each person.
Have a great one
Pam C
New Orleans
post-op 9/8/03
maryooch7 <maryooch7@...
I'm 2 days post lap rny, home, and have the runs. Is this normal,
how long should i expect this to last

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Advice??

2007-12-09 18:59:40

congrats!!! i understand i was the same way and once i was approved the
butterflies all came back again. my new birth date is oct 28th 2003
nora
pre-op
290/150
michigan

Advice??

2007-12-09 17:47:03

Hello Everyone!
I have my first visit with the surgeon on Tuesday. I have gathered all of my
medical records and I have made a list of questions that I want to ask him. I
have also made a list of all of my diet attempts. Is there anything else that I
need? Are there questions that you wish you had asked on your first visit? I
would appreciate any help at all. I am excited and nervous about my visit.
Thanks,
Pat

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Surgery &amp; Intubation

2007-12-09 04:45:43

ok your story just scared me alot. but thanks for the info i really needed to
this anyway.
nora
pre-op
10-28-03
290/150

nervous

2007-12-09 00:31:14

everyone i was approve for my surgery by date is oct 28th. i have
been trying since march to get this approved through my ins (blue
care network) as long as they were saying no i was did not worry
about it but once i was approved i have been so happy and nervous at
the same time. has anyone else felt this way. i have no doubt that i
want this i just want to make sure this normal.
nora
preop
290/160

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] NECTAR PROTEIN POWDER

2007-12-08 15:21:22

In a message dated 9/19/2003 7:58:12 PM Central Standard Time,
maryooch7@... writes:
Does Nectar mix to a clear liquid?
Not clear it has color, The apple is green, the strawberry kiwi is red. And I
would assume the cherry is also red. But I really like them. So much better
than the other stuff, yukkkkkkkkk.
Wolfie
Lap Rny...August 27,2003
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt
Birmingham, Alabama
Keep 'Em Laughing!

Re: HELP the runs

2007-12-08 11:47:50

Congratulations for being on the losing side!!!
As for the "runs", it could be a few things. Remember gas is trying
to find an outlet (they use gas during the surgery) and this is
normal after surgery to have gas if you are. Being 2 days post op,
you're not eating enough to be really have the runs (I was on clear
liquids for 2 weeks after surgery), but because I went home on pain
meds, they also had me on a stool softner too. The pain meds caused
constipation and that's why I had to take the stool softner. Well I
didn't really take the pain meds but I was taking the stool softner
and this caused me to have the runs (but not much because I wasn't
eating anything). I'm not in medicine, but this is what happened to
me.
What are you eating/drinking? What meds are you on? Are you taking
a stool softner? If you still have the runs on Monday, I would call
your surgeon and inquire. A quick phone call could put your mind at
ease.
Good luck!
beth
07/18/2003 LAP RNY
339/280/150
Boston, MA

RE: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Atkins

2007-12-08 08:49:13

Toi,
Is it possible that you could send me the info you have on the Atkins
diet? I know some things about it but would love to see the diet laid
out on paper. If you can I'd appreciate it, if not, it's okay.
Tanya

NECTAR PROTEIN POWDER

2007-12-08 08:37:04

Does Nectar mix to a clear liquid?

Re: Surgery &amp; Intubation

2007-12-07 17:21:52

I read of your ordeal during your intubation and I'm sooo sorry you
had to experience something like that.
I'm 99.9% sure I was put under before they even took me to OR. I've
had those "forget" and "twilight" drugs when going through endoscopy,
and I can't say I remember every move the drs made during the
procedure, but I was "in touch" enough to know what was going on, I
just didn't care.
I've had several surgeries (in different hospitals) and can't recall
ever being awake during intubation. Sounds particular to Temple. I
wonder if Dr. De La Cruz (sp) would be willing to comment on this.
**Don't dwell on past failures, dream of future successes.**

HELP the runs

2007-12-07 17:18:52

I'm 2 days post lap rny, home, and have the runs. Is this normal,
how long should i expect this to last

Atkins

2007-12-07 07:32:39

Hi all,
Yep, its the infamous Weekend Poster! Weekdays are just too
demanding for me these days and the last thing I wanna do in the
evenings is touch my puter.
Soooo... a couple of weeks ago hubby decided to go on the Atkins diet
and since he supported my surgery and has done so much for me in the
past 8.5 months I decided I would go through the 2 week induction
phase with him so that he would have a "diet buddy."
Ok, so I know most of our eating plans are similar to Atkins Phase
II, but the induction is pretty strict so it was somewhat of a change
for me. A good change since I've gone to losing more than 5 lbs per
week. YEA!!!! The closer I get to goal (34 lbs) the harder it is to
lose, so I'm excited to find a way to get over those plateaus. Hubby
isn't doing too bad either, he has lost 13 lbs in 2 weeks and is
feeling great about it.
**Don't dwell on past failures, dream of future successes.**

Re: thanks~Linda

2007-12-07 06:01:26

Linda, where will you be having your surgery? I'll be going to
Sacramento to, I live in Dixon. Janice

Brenda ~ Calcium

2007-12-06 19:56:12

Check out the supplements on the Bariatric Advantage website. They
have a calcium citrate lozenge that tastes like an after dinner
mint. THey're the best.
**Don't dwell on past failures, dream of future successes.**

Surgery &amp; Intubation

2007-12-06 17:09:54

I appreciate everyone that responded to my intubation problem
I spoke to the head of anesthesiology at Temple today. He said that
the next time I go into the OR, I will have 2 senior faculty members
there to oversee my intubation. Apparently, about once a month they
have this issue. And that is with 3 bariatric surgeons operating on
up to 3 people a day.
It is a really hard decision to make. He said there is NO WAY that I
will be fully under when they intubate me. Apparently, it is very
dangerous to intubate a person when they are completely out, because
if they fail, the person cannot breathe on their own. Here is my big
question: are you all SURE that you were out when they intubated
you? Did you have to numb your throat with lidocaine first? He said
that I would be give amnetic drugs (which would erase my memory of
the experience), and combined with the natural memory erasing effects
of anesthia, I would not remember the intubation. Is it possible
that you guys were in the twilight state when intubated, but you just
don't remember?
He assures me that they won't fail the second time, but I just wonder
if Temple is the only hospital that won't intubate me when completely
out. Their argument against it sounds very convincing, but it is so
weird that no one else had this problem.

Liquid Calcium/Brenda

2007-12-06 04:52:20

Brenda, I just met with my nutritionist a couple days ago and she
gave me some info on calcium. The pills can be cut, but for max
absorption, it is better to use a different form. The wafers are
okay, they are chewable, but they're pretty big, and you would have
to take about 5-6 each day to meet your needs. I haven't tried
them, but from the looks I bet they taste like Tums...kinda chalky.
Her suggestion is Liquid form. You only have to take 1 tablespoon
twice daily. Not bad. She said the taste is okay. Here's a link
for more info, and ordering. I printed info from this page, and I
am going to check my local healthfood store first to see if they
carry it. She also told me not to take the calcium with my mult-
vitamin, which contains iron, because calcium and iron compete for
absorption. This particular brand we discussed is Lifetime, Calcium
Magnesium Citrate.
http://www.vitaminworld.com/scripts2/htmlos.exe/004099.3.398909298980
0031480?
-Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/263.25/130?

The Midsouth Fair

2007-12-06 04:44:34

Hi everyone! My family and I went to the fair today and we had so
much fun!! I am just 5 weeks post op.
We rode all the rides, even the upside down ones, and it was great!!
Just losing 25 lbs made me have so much energy. I never got tired.
3 1/2 hours of walking, riding.
The best thing about it was my little girl got her "fun" mom back..
A special thanks to the Lord for seeing me through this surgery.
Becky
8/15/03
246/221/135

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] My EGD is scheduled

2007-12-05 22:32:58

Hey,
I hope all goes well. I will keep you in my thoughts.
I go back to work on Monday and am feeling better everyday. I got a question
for ya. I went to my doc apt and told him about the funny feeling I was having
and he told me that was normal. He also told me if I am not hungry don't eat
just drink. Does that sound right to you?
Pam C

More on getting approved before seeing the Dr.

2007-12-05 18:35:43

First let me say I have a awful headache so if things don't make
sense I'm sorry. Gonna lay down after I do this.
I just called the cousenlor I saw on Wednesday who I met with for my
consult and asked her more detailed questions bout getting approved
before seeing the Dr or nutritionist. She says that since I have in
state BC/BS (of AL) that they have made it easier to get approved
just within the past month. Which is why I didn't have to write a
letter or see my Doc first. I do worry they will want more about my
comorbidies since not many are documented as of yet. I was gonna
get them documented at my physical later this month. But I may get
approved just cause my BMI is so high and I am more then 100 obs
overweight. That there may cinche it for me. For those who would,
please pray that if this is Gods will all will go smoothly. That is
what I have been following so far and so far all has gone very
smoothly, not really any gliches except for Dr's out of town but
some for the better. Al others pass me you positive thoughts and
anything else you can give me.
I am looking forward to a new life with my family. My kids are
young enough for me to enjoy the rest of their growing and learnng
years and I WANT to be much more involved. I can't wait to be more
involved.
On side note. My mom is considering this surgery also. She will
look more into it after my grandfather goes back home. (he is
staying with her visiting us). I found her a Dr that I think her
insurance covers but she will need to make some phone calls. She is
not quite 100lbs overweight but close, her BMI is 38. But she has a
lot of comorbidities so we shall see.
Thanks for all your support.
Chelle
282/pre-op

Re: ??? on medicine

2007-12-05 14:54:06

Heard from the doctor and these 2 medicines are OK for us post-ops
to take.
Thanks!

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Lena

2007-12-05 06:25:13

Hey,
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back at ya. Another New Orleans lady...what
a small world. Things are getting much better now. I am drinking really slowly
and going up and down the stairs one at a time. I am so happy to hear things get
better after 4 weeks.
I did not meet Dr.Uddo. Who was your doctor? Thanks so much for your
advise...Believe me I am taking your advise. My middle name at this point is
slow...LOL
Have