Gastric Bypass

Rosario,
I found a site that had some information on the disorder. Its spelled
Achalasia. (Who could spell that right??? :)
Achalasia is a disorder of the esophagus (the tube that carries food
from the mouth to the stomach). The esophagus is less able to move
food toward the stomach and the valve from the esophagus to the
stomach does not relax as much as it needs to during swallowing. This
relaxation is needed to allow food to enter the stomach.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000267.htm
I can understand why doctors would be wary of doing the surgery.
Hopefully, there will be someone who can help her.
Take Care,
TJ

Vanessa you have been blessed I am so very happy for you I loved reading
yopur post today. So much Love to come your way ! How is everything else
will you see a dietician to help you ?
Also Hello to Debbie who had surge on 8-7-03 do not worry this is very
normal and can be for the first several months for me I would have a period
and miss the nest two now at 9 mths tommorrow everything is like clock work.
so relax and enjoy !
This is so funny I am typing to you when my daughter Devon calls and says I
am going to be a Nona again for the 3rd time we would love a girl she has
two sweet boys ! Have a great day !
Robin O - Calif
211-133-????
Dec 5 2003

Well groups I just tried the nectar protein Strawberry Kiwi by Syntrax and it
is very good. I hope that I never tire of these. Lets just hope syntrax
comes out with lots of different kinds of nectar protein drinks. I can't stand
those creamy things, yukkkkkkkkkkk.
Wolfie
Post-op
Surgery-August 27,2003
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

I know it has been awhile since I posted on here but I wanted to let
you know that I am doing ok and that I made me a website that I keep
current if anyone wants to look at it.
http://www.geocities.com/sugarbritchez/sugarbritchez.html
Thanks,
Angela in Alabama
-42 lbs in 5 weeks

PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM EMAIL LIST.
"zoes.mom" <zoes.mom@...
B-12, whether through shots or sublingually, is essential to your health.
If you become deficient, you can cause IRREVERSIBLE nerve damage and there's
no coming back from that, so beware.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/235/165
BMI 60/34.7/24
-151
-92.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

I guess they are just very busy. I also know that one of the drs. just left the
practice which put more of a burden on the other drs.
Carolyn

Im so sorry about your son. But I am glad that he was found quickly so
that help could be started immediately. He will have a long road back to
recovery, and he will need his mama. Youre right, wls surgery can wait.
There are far more important things that you have to do first.
God bless all of you,
Charlotte
Pre-op (tomistic)

Ive had a record number of virus laden emails tonight too. But Norton
caughtem! I just got through making rules in my pc format to
automatically block and delete all mail coming from them. I think Ill

Oh Joyce, my prayers go out for your son and for you. Quite often
God's messages to us are not so vivid, but thankfully your son has
survived and has his loving mother there for support and help.
Your day will come Joyce, have faith.
Toi ~ Colorado
Lap RNY Medial Bypass
12/31/02
-120 lbs
St. Mark's Hospital
Salt Lake City, UT
Dr. Steven Simper

Ok I am having a problem with virus's- Bless Norton Anti-Virus's
heart for catching them all as I receive them- BUT I literally got
100 infected emails tonight in my mail box. I know that the sender's
name disguises itself or whatever, but the names are all names I
recognize from the posts on here- and no one I have contacted
directly- Does anyone know- if I set this to NO email, will it stop
if it's somehow being transmitted thru the list? I don't want a
virus and I certainly don't want to contaminate someone else's
computer either!! I already ran the tool for the Sobig thing and it
says its not on my computer. Any suggestions are GREATLY appreciated!
Amy
Pre-op
scheduled 10/14/03

I miss reading and writing on here for the pass 5 days. You guys were right I
wasn't ready for the surgery. God made it so I wouldn't have the surgery yet. My
son was into a dirt bike accident and almost lost his life in it. God was with
us. He is home now but he has alot more doctors to go to for surgery. He has 5
plates in his place and a broken collar bone if his friend didn't find him he
would of been dead. He had air going to his brain. The doctors plugged that up
too. He really crash his face. But with Gods help we will have our son back. God
moves in really good ways. My ex family ask when I was going to have surgery
cause I stayed with my son the whole time and I told them when God says it is
ok. He knew my time was here with my son. They told me they would be with me
too. I was a good mother to my kids. They found that out now? After 27 yrs. LOL.
My kids and my new husband was the most important people in my life. The family
is going to help with my son now so I can have the
surgery when the surgeon says so.
Thanks everyone.
Joyce
Waiting for surgery.

Hi Everyone,
Omar and I are trying to plan a get together for people in the Central
Florida area. We are looking at either Sept.20th /21st (but leaning toward the
21st). Once we know how many people would like to participate we can decide on a
place. We'd really like as many people as possible to join us since there aren't
many groups area this area for support/friendship. Hope to hear from you
soon.
Thanks,
Dawn
Wife of a Loser

Dear Brenda,
B-12, whether through shots or sublingually, is essential to your health.
If you become deficient, you can cause IRREVERSIBLE nerve damage and there's
no coming back from that, so beware.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/235/165
BMI 60/34.7/24
-151
-92.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

First I will introduce myself, I am Chelle and am 32. I am married
and we have 3 children. I have had a weight problem for the past 20
years, constaly trying to succeed with weight watchers. I have
finally decided on WLS. My dh and I have done a lot of research and
both feel this is right. Right now I am focusing on the future
after bypass surgery. Anyone here had it more then 5 yrs ago? How
are you doing? Maintaining or struggling again with your weight?
My biggest concern is 10 yrs from now. I do plan to ask these at my
consult but I wnated to hear it fron you.
I have scheduled my very first appointment, consult, for September
17th. I saw my PCP today about my blood pressure and my glucose
levels. He and I boht feel we need to get this all in my recoreds
before I see the Dr. I will actually meet my Dr on October 24th,
but before that I have a physical with my PCP on October 14th. I
was pleasantly surprised to find out today that my PCP Dr was
supportive in my choice. He said I was a perfect candidate and
perfect age for this surgery. He said he would do anything he could
to help me get approved. I have a recently family history of heart
troubles, high blood pressure and high cholesterol so we are gong to
nip it in the bud early for me. My brother is 34 and is already on
hihg blood pressure meds, has been for a few years now. He's not
even overweight, I don't want to go there at all. Things are
falling into place so easily starting with finally making this
decision.
So that is where I am. Just some background on me, I've just
started my journey and am excited about my choice.
TIA for all your help.
Chelle

OMG!!! You look so GREAT! It's such a dramatic change....girl you
do need to show off your new figure, not cover it up!! Thanks for
posting the pix, it does give us preops hope!
Connie
preop 9/17/03

Very well put, Mary. After being overweight for so long, even the
baby steps are welcome now.
Jill- Louisiana

Dear Carol,
I've heard many, many people are told they have to lose some weight prior to
surgery. Some have been told 10 lbs., others 10% of their excess (my friend
Bill had to lose a tremendous amount in order to qualify). Sometimes the
reasoning is that it shrinks a fatty liver. Other times it's to see how
compliant you will be (they use this as a gauge for whether or not you'll be
compliant after surgery. They want success stories on their lists and if
you can't be compliant, it makes their chance of success less).
Thankfully my surgeon didn't require this because not only didn't I lose
weight pre-surgery, I gained eight pounds.
Dear Lori Anne,
Thank you my sweetest angel. You are a voice of inspiration on this board
sweetie.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/235/165
BMI 60/34.7/24
-151
-92.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

Hi all,
I just wanted to add here. I know I felt the same way about my weight loss. I
would encourage anyone who has no lifting restrictions to stroll down the pet
food aisle the next time you are at the grocery store and pick up a 20 pound bag
of cat or dog food. It somehow put things into perspective for me. That is an
incredible amount of weight. I think unfortunately we spend so much time
obsessing about the actual numbers that we lose sight of what awesome progress
we are actually making!!
Slow and steady but definitely heading in the right direction. I've never been
so happy to be a loser in my life!!!
Mary
Open RNY 3/20/03
320/254/150(?) -66 pounds!
--
Mary A. Rawlings Kansas, USA
knitwit@...
homepage: http://www.angelfire.com/ks/maresplace <:3 )~~~
--
"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"
--

I unjoined this group and I am still getting mass emails. I want
this to stop, how do I do this??

Congraduation Wolfie I'm sure the scale not lieing You lost that
wt.I so happy keep on going Girl.I was told weight ever month becuz
you really see the lost.I know 6 days after surgery I was my Doctor
and seen I lost 18 lbs so hang in and watch the pounds leave you so
fast.Again Way to Go Girl on to the skinny side of Life !!!!!!.a
friend debkroll of
Iowa,

I am 5 months and a week and have only lost 77lbs.
Mary A. B.
LAP RNY 3/22/03
BMI 65/54
386/309 - 77 LBS.

Hi - I read a post about caring for small children after surgery. I
have the same concerns. My daughters are 16 months and 4 years
old.
I decided to place an ad for a mother's helper for a few hours per
day, 3 days per week. I specifically asked that they have a toddler
so my little one will also have a playmate. I have been inundated
with responses. At $6.00 per hour, I feel this is worth it for my
peace of mind. After all, I will be saving on groceries!!
Good Luck,
Alicia/pre-op
expecting a winter date for surgery

I only lost 20 lbs in my first month and now I am 3 months and 3 weeks post
op and have only lost 50 lbs. I only needed to lose about 130 lbs before
surgery which is quite a bit less than most of the others who are losing so much
faster than I am. How much you have to lose definitely plays a part in how fast
you lose, especially in the first few months.

Hi Gina!
My surgeon wants me to have a b-12 shot once a month. I can either get
it from his office or set it up with my pcp. The shot is given in the
back of my arm. Hardly any pain and my arm is not sore at all.
Brenda

Hugs, Caroline. That feels better. You're doing so great yourself
that I feel inspired. Keep up the good work!
Jill- Louisiana

Oh, thanks for reminding me! I need to go pick up some sublinguals
today so I can get started on it too. Why do you get shots instead
of taking it at home? I am supposed to take 500mcg daily. How much
is in your shot and how often do you get it? Does your insurance
pay for it? Do you get the shot in your arm? Are you very sore
afterwards? Sorry for all the questions, but I'm just wondering what
the difference is. Here's a link I found with some basic info on
B12. I didn't realize hair loss could be from a lack of B12.
http://www.cc.nih.gov/ccc/supplements/vitb12.html#what
-Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/272.75/130?

You must go to the homepage and unjoin the group if you want to remove
yourself from the email list. We're sorry to see you go :-(
Tanya

I hear that! My last period was July 3, a couple weeks before
surgery. I hope I get it soon, so I can start my new birth control.
-Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/272.75/130?

Hi Jill,
Having "been there" but now past the first couple of months preop
AND having had the opportunity to meet many people who've had the
surgery, I would say that 25 lbs lost the first month is the average
and NOT the 40 or 50 lbs we hear some report. I know that for
myself, I was stressing thinking I wasn't losing fast enough, but I
am now down 80 lbs in only 4 months. At the rate I'm going, if I
were lose just 10 lbs a month until I am one year post-op, I'd have
lost 160 lbs in my first year. And at least right now, I am still
losing 15 to 20 lbs a month, so it is possible that I could lose
even more. (I have a total of about 220 to 240 to lose.)
So hang in there, you are doing great!!!
:) Caroline
Lap RNY 5/2/03
367/287/150 (-80 lbs in 4 fast months!)
My WLS Progress & Photos: www.tinyurl.com/bkld

What is Ackulasia? Never heard of it.

It's been 4 weeks since my surgery and I missed my period. Is this
normal? does surgery throw off your cycle? Thanks
Debbie R.
Open RNY
8/7/03
Dr. Cynthia Geocaris
Green Bay, WI

Yes it does.

Shannon, My kids are 2,4 7 and 9 . They can can do simple basice things for
themselves. my hubby is just excited as I was 6 months ago. I plan on talking
with surgeon about it. I think it will all depend on how the surgery works with
us. I'm looking to have a LAP/RNY and if it is uneventful(knock on wood) recoup
time may not be so bad. I have to be well enough to drive my little one to
preschool. I don't think it would be too bad to have our surgeries a month
apart. I really don't have anyone else that could come and helpout. But I have
this strange feeling that everything will be just fine. Thanks for writing I
just love you guys! Constance Shannon Breivik <lilcomfycouch@...
wrotIt depends if the kids are older and able to help out
as well. My daughter will be a big help-she's 15. My
youngest is 11 and my oldest 18. They can all help in
some way.

A friend of mine wants the gastric bypass surgery but has what is called
Ackulasia (I'm sure I wrote it wong)! Anyway, is there a doctor anywhere that
will consider her for the surgery? Is there a way she can go around her
obstacles? She is in desperate need of this surgery!
Thanks, Rosario

No, I was going thru all the mexican docs on www.obesityhelp.com.
he does the RNY LAP so I was wanting to research him some more. I
am from canada and our wait is abotu a YEAR for a consult and up to
3 YEARS for the surgery(not kidding!!!!). Dr Rumbaut(i misspelled
b4) is in Monterrey.
heather pre op

In a message dated 9/3/2003 2:27:09 PM Central Standard Time,
imahoottoo@... writes:
Thanks, Shannon. Since I wrote that post, I have been experimenting
with my pureed foods diet and discovered hormel chili, 1 portion
pureed has 24 grams of protein. I also tried fat free mayo in tuna
pureed and made an egg salad kinda mixture. I will only be on pureed
food for one more week then on to soft foods so the added variety
will be better, I'm sure. Now if the weight would just start coming
off a little better...
I guess I was lucky, the doctor told me to go from liquid to soft foods.
Maybe pureed is next? Hmmmmmmmm.
Wolfie
Post-op
Surgery-August 27,2003
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

26 lbs in less than a month is pretty darn good!

Thanks, Shannon. Since I wrote that post, I have been experimenting
with my pureed foods diet and discovered hormel chili, 1 portion
pureed has 24 grams of protein. I also tried fat free mayo in tuna
pureed and made an egg salad kinda mixture. I will only be on pureed
food for one more week then on to soft foods so the added variety
will be better, I'm sure. Now if the weight would just start coming
off a little better...
Jill- Louisiana
Open RNY 8/7/03
299/275/145

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Robin
Wisconsin

Congratulations!! How long ago was your surgery?
Debbie R.

PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THE LIST

Carol Matar

Well gang I went with a friend of mine to the doctor and if the scale aint
lying and if I have the right weight in my memory bank I have lost about 10-13
pounds this first week. I could be wrong. It may be more or less but I will
know better tomorrow. I will post again on a follow up. How is everyone doing by
the way. Love and Skinny Wishes to you all!
Wolfie
Post-op
Surgery-August 27,2003
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

I haven't really posted any message recently I have been caught up
in a lot of things. But I just wanted to post that I'm 8 weeks
pregnant I was trying for about 4 years before I had the wls and now
I'm finally pregnant! I'm really excited!!!!!

No, but where in Mexico is Dr. Rumbart at and what is his cost? Was he
recommended by someone you trust?
Rosario
rgmoren56@...
hc0871 <h.crook@...
Has anyone used Dr Rumbart in Mexico?
Heather Pre Op
Dr Amson, Victoria, canada

Has anyone used Dr Rumbart in Mexico?
Heather Pre Op
Dr Amson, Victoria, canada

Hi Sweetie
Happy Anniversary on your surgery date Deb you are such an inspiration to us
all and a wonderful happy person too. Your Zoe is sure lucky to have found
such a wonderful mommy such as yourself. So you keep up the good work we are
all sure proud of you and you will have every single dream come true you just
wait and see:)
(((((((DEB))))))))))))))))))))
Lori Anne
post op Lap RNY
8/25/03
274/261/135

I've heard that the blues is quite normal from 2-6
weeks. As far as the protein, if you can't tolerate
the drinks, just try eating high-protein foods (tuna,
eggs, etc) to get in your protein. Give yourself a
break from the nasty tasting drinks and try it again
in a couple of weeks. The whey brand is supposed to
taste okay. The carnation ones as well-although it
sounds like they don't have very much protein in them.
Good luck,
Shannon in WA

Tanya:
I'm in Shreveport Louisiana and can't get Braums, either. I did write
via their web site, though, and told them of how the message board
was singing their praises. If it ever comes to my area, I will be
first in line to buy it! I miss 2% milk sooo much.
Ami, maybe yo could send me some, too??
Jill- Louisiana
Open RNY 8/7/03
299/275/145

Please unsubscribe me. thank you
Jane Souza <raggityj@...
raggityj@...
toibox_success wrote:
How wonderful to hear that you are all having great experiences so
far. It does my heart good to see you post about the positive
changes that have taken place since your surgery. Remember folks,
this is only the beginning of a very wonderful journey.
Toi ~ Colorado
Lap RNY Medial Bypass
12/31/02
-120 lbs
St. Mark's Hospital
Salt Lake City, UT
Dr. Steven Simper

Hi Tess,
What do you mean by 'sugar no longer affects me'? Do you mean that
you can eat sugar without any problems? I don't know how much you
weighed to begin with but depending on your starting weight, age,
etc. some loose skin is inevitabale. I have read that insurance
usually covers removal of excess skin in some areas such as the
stomach. Ask your doctor about that:) Since you are worried now
about your diet I am wondering how much do you eat at a time, type
of food, and have you regained any weight?
Thanks for joining our board!
Bridget N.

Do any post ops here offhand know how much more weight on average you lose
when you have a tummy tuck? I have heard it is 10-15 lbs. Is this correct?
Kimmie
Lap RNY 12/19/02
343/194/135

Hi Kimmie,
I was just talking to my surgeon about that last week. She said that
it can vary by quite a bit. It can be as low as 6-7 lbs. I have a
friend who lost well over 400lbs, and his tummy tuck was huge. I
think he said it was about 45lbs of skin and fat that were removed.
So I guess it just depends on how much loose skin is there. I hope
this helps.
Take Care,
TJ
Open RNY 02/12/03
325/235/185

Heeeyyyy Everybody!!! Ya'll it is One week until my surgery & I am getting
sssssssssssoooooooooooo..... Nerrrvous!! I don't remember being this nervous
before--I wonder if that's normal??LOL! I also am nervous because see-I'm having
the Revision from the Open VBG to the Open RNY----some people say the revision
to the DS is better but for one I Do not think my Dr. does it & He really seems
to think this will be better. I have had suuuch a tuffff time with the VBG-- I
had it in May 2001 & when I was able to eat soft foods I got to where I could
Not hold down Annnnnything--& got sickkk-well he went in & Loosened the band
some & after that I did good--I had lost almost 100 pounds----but have had
problems with different foods & got sick & have put prrrobably alll + some of my
weight back on--I havent weighed in almost a month 1-2. I have just gottern to
where I do nnnot want to be seen by anyone--I have no energy hardly at
all----but If Ya'll will Plllleeeeeeleaze pray for me! I'm going
to see the Dr. Friday & ask him some last minute questions becuz I realllly
havent had a chance to sit down with him much to ask questions sense I have
gotten approved. Ya'll----what is it going to be like??? I'm scarrred!! I am
married & we have got a 9 year old daughter, so I needd to be around for a
lonnnng time to come, & the rate I'm going now---I won't make it.
Feel free to private e-mail me!!
Ladiebugg_105@... Luv Ya All!! Lori
P.S.---If Anyone has Before and After Pictures & would not mind shareing
them---will You Send them to me?? I just need an incentive right now---If that
makes sense!!--LOL!

-Ladybug, Beth, I am new here but, I had the RNY, back when they did
them open, the four inch inscions. I had mine 2 years ago Thursday
and I wondered what I got myself into for about three or four weeks,
because of the shock in life changes I guess! Then I started
shopping, wow, I will NEVER regret this surgery. It litterally saved
my life.In the hospital, right after, I wont lie, it was not pretty.
It hurt and they forced me to walk when I didn't think I could move!
I couldn't take the pain meds, because they kept putting them in the
stomach tube, but it wasn't seated right and all the meds and food
leaked out! That is very rare, and does NOT happen with the newer lap
style surgery. You will not remember the discomfort when your
daughter says you are pretty, when your husband brags on you to his
friends or when some guys wolf whistle or flirt! I don't! I had an
extreme case with many complications, I still lost weight, I still
have continued to lose for two years, I am sooo happy with almost
everything. You wont have my complications, so think how great it
will be for you! I posted before and after pics as Achaifa on group
photos, not in a file. Good luck, all my best wishes...I cannot wait
to see the new you in a few weeks! Fabulously exciting times are
about to begin!!! Tess

Please remove me from you list
raggityj@...
toibox_success <toibox_success@...
How wonderful to hear that you are all having great experiences so
far. It does my heart good to see you post about the positive
changes that have taken place since your surgery. Remember folks,
this is only the beginning of a very wonderful journey.
Toi ~ Colorado
Lap RNY Medial Bypass
12/31/02
-120 lbs
St. Mark's Hospital
Salt Lake City, UT
Dr. Steven Simper

How wonderful to hear that you are all having great experiences so
far. It does my heart good to see you post about the positive
changes that have taken place since your surgery. Remember folks,
this is only the beginning of a very wonderful journey.
Toi ~ Colorado
Lap RNY Medial Bypass
12/31/02
-120 lbs
St. Mark's Hospital
Salt Lake City, UT
Dr. Steven Simper

I wondered if there is anyone here who had their surgery a wgile
back? I had the rue-n-y In September of 2001, and am now facing a
whole new set of questions. Dumping from sugar, mine went away
recently and now sugar no longer effects me at all! Loose skin, no
matter what or how much exercise it wont firm up! How much should I
be able to eat and is that permanent? Anyone else this far post
surgery, I'd like to hear your experiences. Nice to meet everyone.
Tess

Braums around here is a fast food/ice cream place. They started out as a
dairy and still milk their own cows and sell the milk. 8 ounces of braums milk
has 12 grams of protein. Its a lot fresher too because it is milked from the
cow one day and on the store shelf the next day. I get the fat free version
and its thicker and richer than even regular 2%. I love it. Its too bad that
you guys up north are deprived of Braums :(
~ami~
261/211.5/130
Lap RNY 5-13-03
In a message dated 9/2/2003 8:55:12 PM Central Standard Time,
zoes.mom@... writes:

Ok, I've updated my photo file (ToiBox) showing pics from pre WLS, 5
months post, and 8 months post. I know for me, looking at
progression or before and after photos of successful WLS patients was
a big motivator, so I hope mine do more than just elicit giggles from
y'all, LOL.
Its funny, Its getting less and less painful to look at my pre-op
pictures, but now I look at them and see just how uncomfortable I was
in that body. I imagine how I must have looked walking (lumbering is
a better word), trying to stand up, trying to go potty... its such a
distant memory now, but I know I'll never forget how life was at my
heaviest and I'll NEVER take my health for granted again.
I have curves now and don't have to dress in the biggest drapiest
clothes I can find, thinking that maybe they will hide my weight
somehow. My mind still tells me I have to cover up, but I'm working
on this part.
Blessings to you all.
Toi ~ Colorado
Lap RNY Medial Bypass
12/31/02
-120 lbs
St. Mark's Hospital
Salt Lake City, UT
Dr. Steven Simper

I have No felling when I'm hungry yet But the nutrition told me
today that it was normal for some to not know when there hurgry.She
said it could be any time for now to 3 months for the stomach to
tell the brian you need some.As for diarrhea is normal to and well
pass as time goes.But if it gets worse contact the Doctor & get back
in and see him.Also call your Nutrition lady or gentleman if you
have too, their great on helping to find something to help with the
trouble.I havn't had any of that trouble but was told very common
thing I could have.God Bless and hope and pray you get better.a
friend debkroll of
Iowa.

Never did I think I would be having so much trouble with my GI tract
post surgery as either I hadn't paid attention or there wasn't much
info.
I posted about two months ago about severe constipation and
was "normal" for a month or so. For the last 10 days or so, I have
been plagued with diarrhea and cramps.
Additionally, I have virtually NO appetite and really nothing tastes
good. More than one or two bites of any kind of meat nauseates me.
For breakfast I am having one protein shake. Lunch today was three
small bites of tuna fish. Dinner was three small bites of salmon.
I'll have another protein shake.
My surgeon said I could take some Imodium but that doesn't seem to do
much.
Has anyone else gone through a "spell" like this? I don't feel sick
but I really don't like food at all. I wasn't like this last month.
I am discouraged - can anyone relate and offer some encouragement?
Thanks.

Dear Ami,
That's an awesome amount of protein in milk. Where is that available? (I
never heard of it before but I'm in the northeast where milk is only 7 or 8
grams of protein to 7 or 8 ounces... hahahahaha).
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/235/160
BMI 60/34.7/24
-151
-69.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

Congratulations RaeShel, you have done so well in less than 3
months. What the heck is your secret girl? What have you been
doing to get 110 pounds off. Please share.....
Seriously, you should be so proud of yourself. I was really happy
to read your post.
Beth
07/18/2003
339/291/150 -48
Boston, MA

In a message dated 9/2/2003 2:14:58 PM Central Standard Time,
cmi517@... writes:
On your successful surgery, on your diabetes improvement, on being
such a loser.
connie
Thank you so much Connie!
Wolfie
Post-op
Surgery-August 27,2003
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

Bruce,
What a great tool you have created! I love it thank you very much!
Pamela
11/19/02
140 lbs gone !!
Miami

In a message dated 9/2/2003 4:59:37 PM Central Standard Time,
conchdoc@... writes:
For any pre-ops looking at GB for medical reasons, I hope this helps
bill g
7-15-03 RNY @FMC
250/213/185?
Hi Bill, It sure was good to hear all this good news from you to. I am hoping
and praying that my six week report is as good as yours. Thank you for the
words of encouragement! Have a great day. And SKINNY WISHES TO US ALL!
Wolfie
Post-op
Surgery-August 27,2003
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

I was way impressed Bruce. Thanks way cool and very easy to understand.
Mel
Open RnY May2,2003
289/202/150

http://www.thinnerself.com/files/Expect_Chart.htm
Hey Folks,
I would like to invite you to check out this new tool that I have
created and have available on my website. It is free... just a way
for me to try to help others along this journey.
I am pretty new here and kind of stay in lurk mode... but appreciate
this group and the wonderful website.
The Tool allows you to track your weight loss on a weekly basis, or
just project your weight loss over a period of time. Also, Long term
post ops - Say you want to see what percentage of excess weight you
actually lost, you can put in your start weight and, for the Weeks,
type in 78... then hit Calculate Percent... It will tell you what
percentage of loss you attained. There is a Create Report Button
that will then generate a graph that will show you the low and high
weight loss expectations and where you fit in.... In addition, it
will generate about 5 pages worth of data all about you. The idea
here is to help folks set proper expectations or let folks know what
they can expect from the surgery. I had a lady who was very
disappointed that she had not lost all of the weight she expected...
she told me that she was soooo thankful for finally realizing that
she was not a failure at WLS... she lost 78% of her excess weight,
but felt that way because she had not lost 100%... she said she now
realizes that she is actually above normal... That meant a lot to
me... I hope this helps you too...
The data that you input is saved to cookies on your own computer, so
every time you return to the site from your computer, it should
retain the information so you don't have to retype it every time.
Play with it, enjoy it... and let me know what you think... How many
things are free in this life... :-)
Thank You,
Bruce Underwood
RNY 3/6/06 412/286
www.thinnerself.com
PS. I still have a few things to do on it and I want to include a
help page, but if you think of something that will help it... let me
know... thanks

Jess I wouldn't give up on surgery yet. Isn't optifast a liquid diet
program? I would be fearfull that after I lost weight I would go
back to the same old eating habits. Double check with people and
friends around you. see if they can help out a day or so here and
there. Is day care an option? I wish you the best.
Jill H.
271/preop

Congratulations Wolfie.
I just had my 6 week blood work done, and the results are great. I,
too, was taking 7 pills a day for Diabetes preop, and none since
surgery, but my sugar is normal. My cholestrol is about one half
what it was, despite taking one pill per day instead of three. My
triglycerides are lower than they have ever been, by far. My blood
pressure med has been cut in half, and My coronary risk ratio is less
than average, formerly twice the normal risk. I had surgery for
medical comorbidity reasons, and it sure has worked! Plus, I also
gave away a load of clothes yesterday, and need to go shopping.
For any pre-ops looking at GB for medical reasons, I hope this helps
bill g
7-15-03 RNY @FMC
250/213/185?

Hello Ladies from another Northern Calif Girl - Wow Angie your date is so
close ! You will do fine. Trish do you have a date yet ? I understand what
you are saying about being trapped in and body that is out of control. If I
can help let me know.
Robin O - Calif
211=133-???
Dec 5 2002

Constance, here's a link for you. In the upper right you'll see the
couple, Sean and Danyel Hand.
http://www.wlssuccess.com/index.htm
Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/275.5/130?

Good for you. Thanks for the encouraging news. I am almost 4 weeks post-op,
and hope I have the kind of results you did. Oh, to ride a bike!

Hey guys,
For all of you out there still contemplating wether or not surgery
is for you I just wanted to tell you how awesome I feel! I had my
surgery June 6th, 2003 and I have lost a total of 110lbs. now! At 31
years old I have more energy than I ever thought possible....I
excersize everyday and do water aerobics and ride my bike with the
little girls I nanny for! If someone had suggested a bike ride 3
months ago I would have cringed and laughed right out loud at their
stupidity....but I can't get enough now! Things are changing soooo
fast and I am sooo excited! I am going to school to get my teaching
degree and I finally feel like life has begun. I went through my
closet the other day and got rid of a TON of clothes and it was the
best feeling to know I was NEVER gonna need them again. It is all so
new. I wish everyone who wanted the surgery could have it! I feel
like I have been given a precious gift! Even though I had a few minor
complications....I would go through the pain of surgery a thousand
times over to be where I am right now!
Now.....if I could just find a man............hahahahahahahaha
Love and luck to you all!
RaeShel
6/06/03
373/263/160?

In a message dated 9/1/2003 10:27:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bk624@... writes:
Guys, I also heard that Star Jones from the show "The View" is going
to be having the Gastric By-pass surgery. She won't confirm it,
which I don't blame her at this point, but I wish her nothing but
success. She is a beautiful woman.
I hope the rumor is true because she really is at an unhealthy weight and I
can't see how she could have a long healthy life with it still on like this. I
wish her all the best whether the rumor is true or not :) She is one of my
role models, highly intelligent successful lawyer, talk show host and very down
to earth and also a shoes and clothing diva LOL.
Lori Anne
post op Lap RNY
8/25/03
274/261/135

Good luck Shannon. Take care of your self and hurry back to us!
Pamela
11/19/02
140 lbs gone!!
Miami

good LUCK TO YOU
Allan

On your successful surgery, on your diabetes improvement, on being
such a loser.
connie

Well, all, I'm filing for divorce this week, so my husband will most likely
either lock me out of the computer, or finally leave and take it with him. I
shouldn't be offline for too long, but I've set my account to "no email" so
that way nothing bounces in the time it takes me to get another computer.
Hugs to all, and I should still be online this week...maybe.
Shannon

Way to gooooo wolfie!!! That is wonderful. This is a such a
wonderful thing to do for ourselves, even with the complications and
difficult times. I wouldnt change a thing. That is such good news.
Lori - MI
Open RnY
August 1, 2003
-30lbs

DO NOT try the Centrum Liquid either. I took it once, bought a whole
bottle... that was so nasty, even my tiny tummy was in pain.
Lori - MI
Open RnY
August 1, 2003
-30lbs

Maybe try mixing it with something like diluted juice.
I felt the same way about flax seed oil. I couldn't
even look at the stuff in the bottle without feeling
ill-it is gross!

Hi Mary A. B.
I'm so happy to hear that you are off most of your meds. I'm hoping that will
happen to me also. My doctors told me I should be off at least 90% of my meds
inclucing the insulin that I take for my Type 2 Diabetes. Take Care
Big Hugz & Warm Smiles
Debbie
Northern Minnesota
Pre-Op Lap RNY 9/15/03
Current Weight 269 lbs.

I am on this liquid vitamin called Miracle 2000. Everyone says it is the
best. I've been taking it now for over a week (had surgery on 9/22)and each
time I take it is worse than the last. My wife says stick with it until it
is gone especially since it costs $30 a bottle (month supply) but I don't
think I can stomach it any longer. I am gagging when I take it. They
straight up lie to you on the bottle and call it "great tasting". I'm sure
it is "great tasting" if you like to drink sewer sludge. It is awful. I
can't even smell it without shuddering. Is anyone else on this crap? How do
you deal?
Ross
New Orleans, La.

Wolfie,
I am so happy for you. I too WAS a diabetic. My blood sugar has been normal
since I hade my surgery 5 months ago. You go girl!!!
Mary A. B.
LAP RNY 3/22/03
BMI 65/54
386/310 - 76 LBS.

There was a couple that the Seattle Times had been
following. I'm not sure if you can find the article
in the archives. It was pretty interesting. I think
they scheduled their surgeries 1 day apart to make
sure that the other was okay. Or else you could plan
the surgeries a month apart in order to have the other
help during the recovery period. Good luck.
Shannon

Well group today I checked my blood sugar awhile after I ate...which always
scared me before because it would be so high and I would just be so ill. But I
took it and I am elated. My blood sugar is 111 after eating and I am so happy!
I was taking glucophage xr 500mg. 1000mg at evening meal and glyburide 5 mgs
two bid and the insulin along with it. I still take the insulin but I don't
know that I should. It is only a few points difference before the shot. This
sugar problem is the one big deal that made me decide to do this surgery for
myself. I am just so happy...Now that I have jumped up and down and screamed to
the rafters I will smile , close the door, and leave, lol. GOSH I'M SO HAPPY!
(:-) yes SMONE I AM SCREAMING, LMAO)
Wolfie
Post-op
Surgery-August 27,2003
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

Hey Folks,
I hope someone can give me some input here... I have been working
toward surgery for about 5 months now. My husband has decided that he
would also like to have the surgery. Has anyone here done his and
hers Lap RNY'S? LOL seriously has anyone gone thru this process as a
couple?
I'm thinking to myself that one person going thru the first
weeks/months of this would be difficult enough, but both of us????
Not to mention that we have 4 kids(2to9)and dh is sole provider. I'm
thinking geez the money we would save on groceries
happen to our kids if something were to happen during surgery? I
could see obvious advantages and disadvantages. If anyone has done
this "together" please let me hear about your experience. Thanks,
Constance

wtg on getting rid of most of the meds, mary!!
lori h.

beth, find a LOCAL lawyer, hun.
lori h.

I WILL come take care of you and the kids, you'd do the same for me :o)
~~Matter of fact, aren't you doing the same for me? LOL Hugssssssss
Shannon

Hi Amy
Try http://www.starofmay.com/clothing/index.html
In a message dated 9/1/2003 11:10:13 PM Central Standard Time,
amyclaire@... writes:

I am having a problem....... I am wondering if this surgery is the right
thing for me. I have the insurance approval but, they require me to go on
Optifast for 12 wks first and my husband and his sister think maybe I should
just do
the Optifast program and not have the surgery. My husband says he's not
gonna be able to take off work and take care of me and my kids (the kids are 2
and
5). I am afraid that I am gonna be stuck here with no energy and no way to
take care of my kids. Maybe I shouldn't have the surgery?? I'm so confused!
Any body got any advice??
Jess in MI
330/Pre-OP (maybe)

Hi Amy, I recall seeing a clothing exchange on obesityhelp.com.
Chris
preop
280/ /150

An excellent place for bbw and their admirers to make new friends.
Free registration!
http://www.LargeFriends.com/i/1

Distal means they bypass 150cm of intestine, Medial is about 100cm
and proximal is 50cm. Hope that helps. I asked the question myself
preop and was glad to turn the favor around.
Lori - MI
Open Distal RnY
August 1, 2003
-30lbs

Hi Everyone-
I have read and reread information on a million different sites it
seems, through my pre-op journey. And somewhere along the line I
recall reading about a clothing exchange where you can donate you
clothes as you outgrow them to other WLS troopers who may be needing
those sizes. I can not remember where I found that and can not come
across it again. If anyone knows what I am talking about and where I
can go to get more info, I would appreciate- It sounds like a great
idea and way to save $$....I would love to donate my clothes to that.
Thanks Everyone!
Amy
Surgery right around the corner
10/14/03

Thank you Deb, this is just what i needed. I am such a list
person. Hugs to you!!
Lori
Open Distal RnY
August 1, 2003
-30lbs

What about Viactiv, the chewable calcium? I already have these. Are they
ok?
Charlotte
Pre-op (tomistic)

Be sure you get all the protein you need---that is of utmost
importance re: hair loss.
Connie

WOW Lori Your up on at all.Cool.Lets just hope the Dum Inc Co.
figure it out soon.So many people don't have such a hard time.God
Bless and Happy to join the biggies in the world Were all classes
people in the world God made us all very speical.God Bless and hope
everyone had a safe Holiday.a friend debkroll of
Iowa.

Yes Kathy,
I can relate! Mine started falling out at 4 months and it was so bad, it would
clog up the shower drain each time I washed my hair. I have been using Nioxin
cleanser and conditioner and I will say that even though it is still coming out
a bit, it is not nearly as bad as it was when it started. I did a lot of asking
around but couldn't find any information on any kind of supplement to use. I'm
just going to plug away with my Calcium, multivitamin, iron and B12 and hope for
the best.
Mary
Open RNY 3/20/03
320/254/150(?) -66 pounds!
--
Mary A. Rawlings Kansas, USA
knitwit@...
homepage: http://www.angelfire.com/ks/maresplace <:3 )~~~
--
"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"
--

I was watching ET and I couldn't beleave all the stars whom has had
gastic bypass surgery and plastic surgerys.Roseann Barr and many
other was a great program and showed the Carmen and others.Plus I
read today that Randy off of American Idol had it done July and
lokks great.He'll be on American Idol tomorrow night on TV if you
want to see how he doing..So everyone is having the surgery and
seeing progress after word.I'm so happy I made the right chose to
have it done.It sad that Insurance Company don't get the Hint that
it for the Best.God bless everyone and throught whom are just
starting and having trouble getting approve they should Fight and
make sure the Insuarnce Company understand it a better life for you
and will save the company money in the long end.God Bless and Hope
they wake up and save everyone whom want to live a better life.a
friend debkroll of Iowa.Surgery Aug.18,2003,Wt# 357.5/339.5/180 or
better would be wonderful.

In a message dated 9/1/2003 8:40:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
debkroll212003@... writes:
was watching ET and I couldn't beleave all the stars whom has had
gastic bypass surgery and plastic surgerys.Roseann Barr and many
other was a great program and showed the Carmen and others.Plus I
read today that Randy off of American Idol had it done July and
lokks great.
Yeah Debkroll I saw ET and don't forget the Sharon Osbourne had Lapband
surgery many years ago to lose weight and plus she has had so much plastic
surgery
to recreate her body it would make you faint LOL. Yeah Roseanne had it done
but how long ago because it looks like she is one of the type who did not
really change the eating habits because she is still obese, and yes Randy from
American Idol is losing weight really fast and you can really see it in his face
a
lot, I guess he got sick and tired of all the fat jokes from Simon and
contestants who lost:) Oh yes and Jennifer Holiday for those who remember her
from
Broadway had it done a really long time ago she used to be 400 lbs+ and she
still looks great nice and slim now and I also believe that the singer Kelly
Price had it done because she lost a remarkable amount of weight it seems almost
overnight:) Wow does it make the surgery socially acceptable now that Celebs
are all getting some "work" done now LOL. Ladies and Gents I guess we are
traveling with the "IN" crowd now lolololol.
Lori Anne
post op Lap RNY
8/25/03
274/262/135

I KNOW THIS IS A SIDE AFFECT FROM THE WLS...HAS ANYONE HAD THIS
HAPPEN AND HAVE YOU TAKEN ANY VITAMINS TO HELP WITH THSI? I HAVE
EXPERIANCED THIS SINCE ABOUT MY 5TH MONTH AND STILL DO AND THIS IS MY
ALMOST 9 MONTHS. THANKS KATHY

Beth:
Thanks for your response (and example). I did somehow manage to slowly
drop 5 lbs last week (which makes 30lbs gone on MY scale). The best
thing, however, is that my immediate pre-op clothes are hanging on me!
I wore 3Xs (which were baggy so that I could "grow into" them) and my
24s were starting to get a little snug across my belly; now the 24s
hang and the 3Xs looks hilarious on me!
Actually pulled on a pair of 1X pants yesterday; they were loose in
the legs!!!! But were a bit snug in the elasticized waist....
So, even if I'm not losing the lbs as fast, looks like I'm losing inches!
Regards, ShanaLee
("TIA" stands for "Thanks in Advance")

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of Gastric_Bypass_Family
Cedars Med Cntr support group/information meeting
Wednesday September 3, 2003
7:00 pm - 9:00 pm
This event repeats on the first Wednesday of every month.
The next reminder for this event will be sent in 1 day, 22 hours, 2 minutes.
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Notes:
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Jill,
When mixed with 6oz of skim milk, the Carnation Instant Breakfast has 10 grams
of protein.
I started at 286. At my two week check, I had lost 22 lbs. I see my surgeon on
Thursday so I am curious to see how much more I've lost.

For right now I have to admit...I am enjoying not staying hungry and living
in the refrigerator scarfing down food like there is no tomorrow. I like that
it only takes a little bit to satisfy me. And believe me I am a food addict.
That will never change! But this tool I have chosen to make mine is something
that I know is up to me to make work to my advantage.
Wolfie
Post-op
Surgery-August 27,2003
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

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Notes:

2 cups of milk? How long does it take to get all that down? I agree,
that really does boost the grams up.
Jill- Louisiana
Open RNY 8/7/03
Ypsilanti, MI
299/275/145

In a message dated 9/1/2003 12:23:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
l_jsohio@... writes:
am not really good about drinking my protien or taking my vitimans either. I
have always had a issue with pills....icky. They ones I take are the sameone
as Carney Wilson and I have found a fruit protien drink you mix with water. It
is pretty good as far as taste and is sold by a husnad and wife team that had
the surgery themselves.
Hi Lisa
You really must get on top of the vitamin issue or else you may be setting
yourself up for plenty of health troubles for the future. Losing the weight is
fantastic but remember without your health nothing absolutely nothing else
matters. I hate taking pills too but I simply do what my dearly departed momma
used to do for me I crush them up put them on the spoon add a little juice or
water swallow it and chase it all down with tasty juice LOL try apple juice
with 50 percent water 50 percent juice to take your vitamins. I take what my
surgeon gave me after surgery Centrum Adult vitamins with Lycopene they are
totally crushable and easy to swallow afterward and it gives me the full range
of
vitamins my body needs. Sweetheart you had surgery to help save your life now
do what is needed for your body and do it everyday. You don't want to start
having neurological problems as a result of vitamin deficits like B-12 and
others. Before we could simply get most of these vitamins from our foods and
our
bodies could utilize it as needed now our bodies can only use but so much so
we must supplement.
Good Luck
Lori Anne
post op Lap RNY
8/25/03
274/262/135

Call your HR person on Tuesday see if she can get you a copy of your benefits or
even if your benefits are on line. I know with my dh's company all it it was
online, so that was an easy access for me. Then you can put in where it does
state what you need to qualify and then put your points beside the requirements.
I hope I am making sense to you. Good Luck!
Mel
Open RnY May2,2003
289/202/150

I drink my Carnation instant breakfast with 2 cups of Braums milk which makes
my protein drink 29 grams of protein. Plus it goes down a lot better than
the other I have tried.
In a message dated 9/1/2003 12:49:27 PM Central Standard Time,
zoes.mom@... writes:

Hi all,
I've noticed that some of you have had Distal RNY and some have had
Medial RNY. What is the difference?
Chris
preop
280/ /150

To all who are drinking this stuff,
I was told by my surgeon that this was okay for the first two weeks, but if
you read the label, you'll see that it (each packet) only has 4 or 5 grams
of protein (so if you're adding powdered milk, you're boosting it by about
another 7 grams). It's not the best of choices, but it's okay for a start.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/235/160
BMI 60/34.7/24
-151
-69.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

hi, melissa
i got 2 letters from the insurance company - one stated "based on a review
of the documentation submitted, it has been determined gastric bypass is not
a covered benefit under your certificate of coverage. However, if you have
additional medical documentation which you feel will support the need for
further review on this determination, please submit that information to the
address listed above.
the next letter after one allowed over the phone appeal stated they received
my appeal on 8/22/03
at first they said i did not meet criteria and needed more information
right now i am about to write another letter and mail it to the place where
these letters came from. i just need all the info i can get......i cannot
find my booklet of what is covered and what isn't but i called and asked
them b4 starting all this and they read that it is a covered benefit if
determined by a doctor.
i definitely meet criteria:
bmi - 42.9
wt 252 lbs and 5'3"
19 illnesses listed with icd-9 codes listed with treatment by a physician
and medication for these
diet hx back to 1997
wrote a personal letter
i don't know what else to do besides write them and ask for specifics on the
denial and i'm including a photo -- i don't know what else to do.
is there any way you can email me privately with the clause in your book
since i'm pretty sure its exactly the same policy......
coprhed@...
Tanya
visit our website
www.geocities.com/tanyarn96/countryside.html

Hi AJ, I think having surgery is definitely worth looking into.
There are a lot of pros and a lot of cons that should be checked
out. Say a few prayers, do some deep soul searching, take the time
to do medical research, and keep posting and asking questions to
support groups. You'll find your answer. I wish I had taken the
steps you are now, when I was a lot younger.
WTG on taking your first WLS knowledgeable steps.
Toi ~ Colorado
Lap RNY Medial Bypass
12/31/02
-118 lbs
St. Mark's Hospital
Salt Lake City, UT
Dr. Steven Simper