my first taste of REAL food!!!

2007-05-31 22:56:50

Just curious, Brenda, what did you choose for your first real food?
How fortunate you are so have such a supportive husband!
I am 3 1/2 weeks post op and still feel drained, too. Walking seems
to help a little but I really wear myself out after a 20 minute
session. I hope my energy returns, I will be going back to work soon.
Jill
Open RNY 8/7/03
299/275

Just ask yourself.....

2007-05-31 11:36:01

So i agree with you that it is a catch 22. I also did not get picked
on because i had a lot of friends and am just a friendly person, but my
weight
is slowing changing me.
Good luck with your decision.
Deanna from Mass
I know this is a big big decision and it IS major surgery. And only you can
decide if this surgery is for you. The question I asked myself was this...."Am
I willing to live the way I am living for the rest of my life?" My answer was
swift. My surgery was the 27th and I am already seeing remarkable strides in
the diabetes readings and I sleep better. I don't run to the bathroom every few
minutes. I feel better , yes I am still sore, but I get better every day. I
even slept on each side last night. lol. That is a biggie for me since I had my
gallbladder taken out also and the pain was pretty bad for me and suffered
from "Turtle Syndrome" or "Flippisitus" lol. Which is the inability to get off
my back and on my feet, lol. I can now though. I am almost considered a pole
vaulter!!!!! You just have to weigh everything out and decide. I knew my
diabetes would eventually cost me more than I was willing to part with so my
decision
was easy. I hope this helps.
Wolfie
Post-op
Surgery-August 27,2003
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Considering Laproscopic RNY/GPB

2007-05-31 11:06:37

hey A.J
I am 21 and like you i played a lot of sports. Unfortunately eventually
stopped because my weight gets in the way of everything. I am up and down about
this surgery everyday because i want to do it but i am afraid to do it. I also
feel the same about excerciseing i feel i dont excercise because i get tired
and out of breathe because of my weight but i have to excercise because of my
weight. So i agree with you that it is a catch 22. I also did not get picked
on because i had a lot of friends and am just a friendly person, but my weight
is slowing changing me.
Good luck with your decision.
Deanna from Mass

Kimberly Greer

2007-05-30 21:48:36

Kimberly,
You know, just when I get to thinking about you and wondering where
you are and how you're doing, you pop up here and let us know. I'm
glad you are feeling better. Heck, if I was down 40 lbs. I'd be
ecstatic! You just hang in there girlfriend and all will work out
fine. Keep in touch with us here and you know you can always email
me directly!
Take care,
Michelle

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] The Wait Is Over!!

2007-05-30 18:12:43

In a message dated 8/31/2003 9:41:05 PM Central Standard Time,
callj@... writes:
I love reading all the posts every day and hope to be able to report more
good news of a quick surgery date on Tuesday evening.
Tammy
Pre-op 257
Congratulations Tammy!!!!! It won't be long now.
Wolfie
Post-op
Surgery-August 27,2003
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

new to the group

2007-05-30 11:25:51

I to am new to the group.Have almost been apart of this group for a month.
Yes i to have learned a lot,and it has helped me to get myself ready for the new
me.

Re: NEW TO GROUP - HELP!!!

2007-05-30 06:55:30

JoAnne,
My mother didnt have an Open RnY, but she did have open heart
surgery and she also had to heal from the inside out. No matter
what procedure she has, she has to heal from the inside out. She is
very fair skinned and was a smoker at the time, but even after she
stopped smoking she healed slow.
If you are still on mushy food, you are in good company. I am also
still on mushy food at 4 weeks and each time i try to add something
firmer, i get sick. I think it is just too soon. Some people say
they had to be on liquids for two months, so maybe we are just
rushing it. What is the big hurry.....lol other than i agree liquid
is getting to be a drag.
I am so sorry you are feeling such depression, please post her and
get it out. That is the best medicine at times. If you feel
comfortable, ask your dr for some antidepression medication. You
wouldnt be the first post op to do so nor will you be the last.
All i can say is it does get better... so i have been told. I keep
holding on to that and try to focus on the future instead of the
present. I know easier said than done, but what is the
alternative? I live in Michigan, where are you? If you were close
enough, we could go for a walk and whine a bit.. that always makes
me feel better.
We are here, keep getting your feelings out. We will keep listening.
Lori - MI
Open Distal RnY
August 1, 2003

Lori - Vitamins

2007-05-30 01:31:11

Hi Lori Sweetie,
Here's the list of vitamin instructions we give out in our support groups.
After the vitamin information I have listed the reasons why you should not
even bother with calcium carbonate, but rather you should get the citrate as
soon as possible. Keep in mind, you're also getting calcium in from yogurt,
cheese and any other dairy products you're able to eat, so you're not
totally at a loss for calcium at this point. This article is long, but
worth it. Here it comes:
SUGGESTED VITAMINS AND SUPPLEMENTS FOLLOWING WLS:
Immediately following your WLS, you should be taking 1-2 children's chewable
vitamin/s per day. (Flintstones,Bugs Bunny etc..) Centrum makes an adult
chewable and or liquid, and only one dose per day is needed if you do choose
an adult vitamin.
When you advance to modified solids (at approximately 3 weeks post-op) most
of us can tolerate swallowing pills and capsules. At this point it is
advisable to include the following vitamins/supplements daily. It is VERY
important that you take the FORMS of the Vitamins/supplements listed. Any
other forms we are NOT capable of fully absorbing and therefore we will not
achieve the full benefits.
1 multivitamin w/ minerals (Centrum or it's generic equivalent).
calcium citrate w/ vitamin D (1000-1500 mg. per day) Vitalady (vitalady.com)
has an excellent one and it comes in capsule form. Most Calcium citrate
pills are VERY large and Very hard to swallow. Her capsule is the perfect
solution to this problem and the price is quite reasonable. We can only
absorb 500 mgs. at a time so space the pills/capsules during the course of
the day.
Vitamin B-12 Sublingual (under the tongue) 1000-1500 mcg every day or 2500
mcg every other day. Twin Labs makes a good formula. It can also be
purchased VERY reasonably through puritanspride.com (when they have their
buy one get two free sale, its $17.25 for 300 tablets), or Vitalady.com
website or GNC or the Vitamin Shoppe. Vitamin B in summary aids growth,
digestion, mental health, hair, skin, nails, mouth sores, eye fatigue,
assimilate protein & fat, skin & nervous disorders, anti-aging, muscle
spasms & leg cramps, help prevent anemia, increase energy, memory & balance.
Iron (if still menstruating) An excellent choice is made by Sundown
(Carbonyl Iron.) Once again very reasonable on vitalady's website but can
also be purchased in any store that sells a large variety of Vitamins and
supplements (GNC/The Vitamin Shoppe etc.) Iron is a very fussy element. We
cannot absorb ferrous SULFATE and taking it will negate the absorption of
any Vitamin E. It must be taken with Vitamin C, but cannot be taken with
antibiotics; caffeine, milk; antacids of any kind, including medication for
ulcer; any minerals, such as calcium. It is better taken on an empty
stomach, but it can be taken with non-milk food. Think of iron and C as
being on a honeymoon, alone but together.
Vitamin C (500-1000 mgs.) is needed to help absorb the iron supplement. It
is strongly advised that when you wake-up in the morning, you take your Iron
supplement and your Vitamin C at the same time on an empty stomach. Wait one
hour to eat or drink anything. Vitamin C heals burns, gums, wounds;
decreases cholesterol, boosts immune system, increases the absorption of
iron, may reduce allergy suffering & prevents scurvy. Best is to take
Ester-C. Easier on your tummy.
Vitamin E 400 mgs. per day (DRY formula ONLY) we cannot absorb the oil bead
capsules. Vitamin E is for hair, skin, nails, capillary walls, anti-aging,
promotes endurance & alleviates fatigue as well as prevents leg cramps. For
men, it contributes to urinary & prostate health as well as sexual function.
*****************************************************
All the Vitamins and supplements listed above will help to ward off future
nutritional deficiencies. When blood work is ordered and you get your
results, the need to add Vitamin A Vitamin D (dry form only) as well as
zinc, potassium and magnesium may become necessary.
More on the calcium debate
and boron. Next, calcium carbonate is NOT at all good for people who have
had RNY. Calcium carbonate requires one hour of exposure to stomach acid to
become bioavailable; we do not have that stomach acid nor that exposure time
(minimal stomach acid, no pyloric valve). Calcium carbonate can also
facilitate the formation of kidney stones, if you are prone to them. Calcium
CITRATE is the calcium for us. It was specifically recommended by the 1994
National Institutes of Health Consensus Statement on Calcium as the calcium
supplement of choice for people with low stomach acid. Calcium citrate is
lab-synthesized, so it has no risk of heavy-metal contamination as the bone
meal, coral calcium and other "natural" calcium carbonates do.
calcium at a time. If you want to get in an admirable 2000 mg a day, you
will be taking four doses, each separated from the other and from any iron
supplementation by at least two hours. Calcium and iron compete for the same
receptors in your small intestine, and if you take them together, your body
will not take in any of the iron you consume.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/235/160
BMI 60/34.7/24
-151
-69.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Staples and reddness

2007-05-29 19:04:17

Deb,
I had redness around my staples as well, but as soon as they came out it was
only maybe two days before the redness went away. :)
Ruth
post Op Open RNY
Dr Bruce Thayer MA
386/204/???
Oct 29,2002
"Debora A.Kroll" <debkroll212003@...
guys I think I having a reaction to the staples I'm on Pin for it
has anyone else have this happen to them.It looks great ect for the
reddness around it.Looks like it healing.Can't see the doctor to get
them out till Thursday.And is there anything that will work to clean
the site good.I'm not runnering any fever are ect just red around
it.I talk to someone and she said it's common to have this
happen.Just want to know if it's just me are anyone else had this
happen?.God Bless and Have a great weekend.a friend debkroll of Iowa.

Re: Thanks, Debann

2007-05-29 13:07:48

There are 4 grams in a sugar free Carnation Instant Breakfast. Add 8
grams for the skim milk that 12 grams altogether. Add 1/4 cup of
powdered milk that's another 8 grams.
Good Luck
Cheryl Risley
Lap, 7/22/03
lost 34 pounds

Joann

2007-05-29 09:48:44

Sorry about your trouble your haveing.Hang in there every Doctor has
differnt rules.I was put on soft before leaving the hospital I'm 13
days out and on the three day was put on soft foods.I understand
infestions 12 years ago I had c-section and they had to reopen and
heal from the inside out.I had nurses in my home 4x a day then
ect.Took 7 months to heal and still had plastic surgery after becuz
the hole it left.But i can't tell you not to follow the doctor order
he gave you but I know to help soft food helps me some to get
through this.Never had trouble so far except staple reaction causing
reddness and thanks to Jill the heating pad has helped me today.And
for depression it can come quick on anyone.If you like please e-mail
me anytime I'll be there for ya to yell at are just TALK and help
keep your mind off things.I'll pray that the insection heals quicker
too.God Bless and hang in there were all hear with ears and eyes
open to help.And if having trouble holding down water try like
crystal light.It's helped me with water.I'm not much for water but
flavor water helps me get what I need to help or Broth too are
Popsciles sorry brain not spelling right and finger being crazy.I
wish you the best and Yell if you need I'll answer back.God will
help you through anything you go through.a friend debkroll of
Iowa,Surgery date Aug.18,2003,Wt# 357.5/339.5/180 or better.

Digest Number 1310

2007-05-29 01:14:22

" My thighs are huge but fortunately my stomach covers them."
LOL... I remember hearing this from one of the comedians on an e-mail
that was passed around. It cracks me up still.
Having excess skin doesn't exactly make me happy, but having excess
weight made me even more unhappy. Its a give and take for me right
now and believe me, I'd rather give all that fat away and take the
extra skin in return.
Toi ~ Colorado
Lap RNY Medial Bypass
12/31/02
-118 lbs
St. Mark's Hospital
Salt Lake City, UT
Dr. Steven Simper

Walter Lindstrom

2007-05-28 22:07:37

Dear Beth,
I wrote to Walter (quite a while ago) and got a response back from him
within two days. I would say you should write again. Perhaps there was a
glitch in the system and the e-mail didn't get through. You can write to
Walter@... or you can just go to obesitylaw.com and I'm sure you
can get a phone number off of his webpage. I believe his wife works with
him in his practice also. Try again. Don't give up... Best of luck to you.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/235/160
BMI 60/34.7/24
-151
-69.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

Considering Laproscopic RNY/GPB

2007-05-28 12:47:51

Hello everyone -
I am 23, and weigh 330lbs. I grew up playing a sport every season
all the way through high school. I was a good athlete, but I was
always bigger than the other kids. When I started playing football,
I had to play 2 years up because league officials were afraid Id hurt
kids my own age because of my size. My mother was always very
conscious of what I ate. Always diet sodas if any, aways healthy
meals, no junk food snakcks after school. Yet, even with all these
precautions, I was a big kid. Its been rough. I went through the
teasing, but luckily since I was still a good athlete, Im sure I
didnt get it as bad as a lot of big kids. Several of my friends have
had GBP and the results are amazing. I am concerned that as I get
older, and my metabolism slows down even further, Im just going to
keep getting bigger even though I try and eat as healthy as possible
and do a lot of walking wiht my job. I know I should excercise more,
but my weight makes it difficult. Its the catch 22. Id excersice
more if i weighed less, but I wont weigh less unless i excercise
more. I have contacted a local dr's office and my insurance carrier,
who will cover it if its deemed medically necessary. I have had knee
surgery 2 times and my weight is a factor in its deterioration. I am
not really writing this as a sob story, im just hoping some of you
might understand where I am coming from. I have heard a lot of great
things about the surgery and I am hoping that it will help me get a
leg p on controlling my weight. Can anyone offer any advice or
support if this is the right decision for me??
I know My doctor and I have to make the ultimate decision, but any
support would be greatly appreciated.
A.J.

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] another southern bell?

2007-05-28 06:19:25

Hazel,
Good luck and my thoughts and prayers are with you.
Ruth
postop Open RNY
Dr Bruce Thayer MA
386/204/???
Oct29,2002
Hazel <mom2nanny2@...
I'm not sure about that. Southern yes, bell, well i guess in shape.
lol but not for long. I've lost 20+lbs since I started on the
liquid diet. There was someone named Diana, in New Orleans(?) that
posted about a support group that anyone could go to, I'd really like
to know more about that.
Well, where are you having your surgery Pam? I hope yours goes
smoothly as well.
I go in Monday at midnight for surgery at 7:30am on Tuesday, I'm
really getting the willies.
I'm so sorry that I take so long to post back, but with other co-
morbities, it's hard to get around and my Fibro is in full gear right
now.
Ok, that's enough for now, I have to try to get some sleep and I will
try to read posts tomorrow and be a better family member.

When Do You Know It's Skin Hanging And Not All Fat?

2007-05-28 01:18:49

Hiya everyone,
I am hanging, at my belly and my arms. How do I know though when it is skin
- and time to consult a plastic surgeon - and not just fat weighing down the
skin? I really am curious on this.
Take care!
Much love1
Be well!
~ Seta/Katie

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] cash in advance

2007-05-28 00:45:36

My doctor's office indicated that I would have to pay my deductible and that the
hospital would require that ro do the surgery. Once he received the insurance
payment then he would determine if I would still have to pay the out of pocket
max.
Carol Matar
Carol Matar

Re: My JOurney

2007-05-27 11:10:26

Wow lisa, 104 lbs gone, way to go. How'd you do that without
exercise, LOL??? I think its wonderful that you are doing so well,
but be sure you get those vitamins in. It is so crucial to your
future health to take those vitamins and get the necessary protein
in. Do you get regular blood work ups so that your nutrient levels
can be tracked?
Welcome to the group and keep on posting.
Toi ~ Colorado
Lap RNY Medial Bypass
12/31/02
-118 lbs
St. Mark's Hospital
Salt Lake City, UT
Dr. Steven Simper

Hazel Good Luck

2007-05-27 07:15:12

Hiya
Hazel good luck with your surgery and I will be thinking about ya. I will say a
prayer for ya.
I am having my surgery at East Jefferson.
When you get back let me know and I will get the info for the support group. You
can find some info on www.thesurgicalspecialist.com.
I have been to two of the support group meeting with Diana had a blast both
times.
I hope this will help and again I will be thinking about ya.
Pam C
Sept 8th 2003
New Orleans

Re: cash in advance

2007-05-27 02:45:39

I paid $500.00 for my Bariatric Support Center membership. This
amount included news letters, follow up appointments for a year,
nutritional guidance, and some other good stuff. Since my insurance
didn't pay 100% of my WLS bill I also had to pay a certain percentage
of what remained to be paid after insurance. All monies had to be
paid prior to surgery.
Toi ~ Colorado
Lap RNY Medial Bypass
12/31/02
-118 lbs
St. Mark's Hospital
Salt Lake City, UT
Dr. Steven Simper

My JOurney

2007-05-26 22:04:54

Hi Everyone
I am 40 years old, I had the surgery on 3-26-03 was 303 lbs, lost 7 before I had
the surgery and I have lost 104 since the surgery. Everyone says I look great,
they are amazed. I had high blood pressure on 3 medications for that, I was a
Diabetic Type 2 and was on 2 medications for that and not under control. I no
longer have to take any medications for these health problems.
I feel great, have tons of energy too.
I have not started any excerise program, but am looking in to take Pilate
Classes at the hospital
I am not really good about drinking my protien or taking my vitimans either. I
have always had a issue with pills....icky. They ones I take are the sameone as
Carney Wilson and I have found a fruit protien drink you mix with water. It is
pretty good as far as taste and is sold by a husnad and wife team that had the
surgery themselves.
If you have any questions or need someone to talk to, email me at
LJSOhio@...
Good Lucky everyone
Lisa

Re: Learning a lot

2007-05-26 11:02:59

I have dumped twice... And I never want to do it again! I didn't
dare lie down, but just got myself a bowl and tried to think of
something else until it passed.
As far as the Sugar Free Carnation Instant Breakfast is concerned, I
was very surprised that it tasted really good. I had the first one
in the hospital and was supposed to "eat" four of them a day. I
could do three if I put some powdered milk in it. The advise I would
give is to order them from Carnation because I found that stores only
carry chocolate (I got so sick of chocolate after 2 weeks). Call 1
(800)210-8132 to order a case of Sugar Free CIB for around $35 plus
$6 shipping. It really does taste pretty good.

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Digest Number 1310

2007-05-26 08:38:38

In a message dated 08/31/03 4:55:25 PM Central Standard Time,

cash in advance

2007-05-26 05:46:16

Is it normal practice for Doctors to ask for money up front until
your insurance pays. My doctor wants $500. plus $250 for the
nutritional support group. Both these fees must be paid before
surgery will be scheduled. Just curious....Has anyone else
experienced this.

The Wait Is Over!!

2007-05-26 00:18:21

I have been so psyched all day. Yesterday the insurance letter came approving
me for the surgery. Since it's Labor Day weekend I won't be able to call the
doc's office tomorrow but it'll be the first call I make Tuesday morning. I am
sooo excited right now. I actually didn't see the letter until this morning.
My husband and I returned home late last night and he got the mail. When he
walked in I asked "anything good?" Of course meaning - "Did the letter come?"
But I guess he didn't pick up on my psychic message because he said "nope". He
didn't open the letter at the time. And of course I get that gut wrenching
disappointment, because not only is the next day Sunday (no mail) but the
following day is a holiday (so again, no mail). So this morning I'm the first
one up and I'm flipping through the mail and there's a letter from the
insurance company - I open it with shaking hands and search for the word
approved....and there it way.....YEAH!!!! I ran upstairs (which I hope to be
able to do without getting short of breath very soon) and woke up dear ole hubby
by yelling "I'M APPROVED". He's like "huh". Then he's saying "wow, I didn't
realize it would come from them, I thought you'ld get something from the dr's
office". So that now explains why he didn't realize what exactly it was that
he was holding. Looking at the whole situation as a blessing in disguise I
realize that if I had read that at midnight last night I would not have slept
all night.
I love reading all the posts every day and hope to be able to report more good
news of a quick surgery date on Tuesday evening.
Tammy
Pre-op 257

Thanks, Debann

2007-05-25 18:23:35

How are you doing on your weight loss. I started at 299 and am now
276. Do you know off hand how many grams of protein are in Carnation
instant breakfast?

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] NEW TO GROUP - HELP!!!

2007-05-25 11:41:49

In a message dated 8/31/2003 6:09:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jayfuldee5@... writes:
well- I guess I've poured my heart out enough!
Thanks so much for listening....
IF anyone else has had OPEN and has some news for me how it went for
them-please let me know!
God Bless and keep you'all
JoAnne
Hello Dear Sweet JoAnne
I am so sorry to hear of all the problems from surgery that you are going
through. Dear one you had Open RNY and that takes a lot of stress on the body
so
you really are doing the right thing by resting. As for the infection I know
it is causing you so much grief and the healing process takes it's own sweet
time. I had Lap RNY on 8/25/03 and for about 2 days I could not swallow more
than an ounce about every 2-3 hours at a time but now I can do the normal
amount, but the number one thing is I did not despair I knew that my body would
do
it in it's own time. Please talk to your surgeon about how you are feeling
or your chaplain and receive help for it but please realize it is normal to
feel depressed after surgery and have those thoughts of what have I done I have
every belief that your body and your spirit will both heal properly and in a
matter of about 6 months you will be reporting wonderful healthy loses of
weight. Hang in there sweetheart this group is here for you and we are a caring
rag
tag happy bunch believe me :)
Think positive and you are in my prayers for strength, healing and joy :)
Lori Anne
post op Lap RNY
8/25/03

Thanks for being here guys

2007-05-25 00:48:53

Hey everyone.
I know I've only been here for a short time, but I have worked
through things I never could have had you not been here for me. Thank
you for your support, advice and prayers. God bless you folks.
This is one of those rare instances where kindness and humanity
reaches through the cold anonymity of the internet. Which is
something I always hated about bulletin board type sites. You could
run up chuck a spear and sit back and be safe because no one was
really breaking through the layers of ethernet and touching your
humanness. Thanks for being here.
Joe

Thanks, Toi

2007-05-24 20:30:35

Thanks, Toi. I'm glad to know the blues are a part of it...makes it a
little easier to tolerate. Also, I tried Designer whey chocolate
twice and got diarrhea both times :(

Re: Hi, first time post

2007-05-24 14:10:22

Welcome aboard and I'm sure you'll find all the info you need
here.This site has the most caring people on the internet.I hope you
the best and talk soon.a friend debkroll of Iowa surgery date
Aug.18,2003,Wt # 357.5/339.5/180 or better too.God
Bless

heres a friend of mine who weighed over 400

2007-05-24 12:24:48

http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=T1039925648

Sept 20, 2003 - Annual Walk From Obesity!

2007-05-23 22:13:06

Special note:
Anyone in the San Diego or Orange County area, Alan and I will be
going to the one in San Diego. Perhaps we could all meet up there?
:) Caroline Martin
My WLS Progress: www.tinyurl.com/bkld

Re: Very first post

2007-05-23 19:13:48

Jill,
We had our surgery the same day. I had mine in Green Bay, WI.
Regarding the protein. the surgeon and dietian in my program
recommend No Sugar Added Carnation Instant Breakfast as my source of
protien (3 times a day, as a snack). the chocolate is like drinking
chocolate milk. From what I can tell, not many, if any, people use
this. Run it by your surgeon or dietian, but it goes down pretty
smooth.
Debbie

NEW TO GROUP - HELP!!!

2007-05-23 14:20:32

Hello out there.
My name is JoAnne; FLA
5 wks post op - OPEN RNY! :(
263 begining weight
25 June '03 surgery
lost 30 lbs to date - yeah - but the HARD WAY! dehydration and
vomiting (not that I wanted to!)
25 June surgery - have had nothing but problems :( guess I'm the
lucky one! had it done @ military hosp-great DOC
just horrible experience with staples-incision got infected!
the doc had to split back open incision @ 2 wk mark!!! now my hubby
packs the wound 2X day with gauze-so it can heal fm inside out! has
been 3 wks and now I have to small holes! - another part ripped open
@ the 3 wk mark!!!
Needless to say - I have been/am getting really depressed!
I read all of your "success" stories and I cry - wishing it was me!!!
all of you are back @ work and back in the gym AND EATING REAL FOOD @
2 and 3 wks! How do you do it?
Now I'm thinking this was the biggest mistake of my life! I still
cannot keep down anything but mushy stuff @ 5 wks!!!
I have lost 30 lbs but plateaued @ the 2 1/2 wk mark. My hosp stay
was 5 days! - you all got out and back to normal in a few weeks.
I don't know if it's my body or my age (47 3/4) but nothing has
seemed to go right-well, I AM still alive!
I see a nutritionist every week - she's cool - but weighs about 87
lbs wet! So she really cannot understand!
I guess I need some friends! I really want this thing to work, but I
didn't think I'd have to "drink" my meals for the rest of my life.
My nutritionist said @ about the 8 wk mark my stomach should
be "healed" from all the trauma. and that I could eat something!
I guess I feel like Im sinking into depression - for days @ a time I
sleep-nothing else to do! Can't hardly hold down water-if you take a
gulp!
well- I guess I've poured my heart out enough!
Thanks so much for listening....
IF anyone else has had OPEN and has some news for me how it went for
them-please let me know!
God Bless and keep you'all
JoAnne

Very first post

2007-05-23 08:11:42

Hi, I found this group last night and think it may be my salvation. I
had surgery in Michigan and drove back here to Louisiana on Thursday,
3 weeks post-op. I had it done in MI because all my family (support)
is up there. I work and live alone down here and just discovered
there is no support group. I'm really counting on all of you.
My problem is protein. I have tried every shake recipe on the
internet, even hid the powder in malt-o-meal and soup, but it seems
like all I can taste and I'm gagging down every meal. I have even
tried isopure but the after taste is the same, I know how important
the protein is and to get enough, I have to use it every meal. It's
making me sick...help.
I also need to know if anyone else suffers the blues and whether it
is a stage of weight loss or something uncommon. I feel better when
I go for walks, but don't have much stamina.
Jill
Open RNY 8/7/03
BTC Ypsilanti, MI
Dr. Thomas Batay-Csorba

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Has anyone in the group had it done that weighed ...

2007-05-23 01:33:03

Hi Diana,
I did not weigh quite 400 pounds but I was sure close at 386 lbs. I had Lap
and was only in the hospital for 2 days. I had a very UNEVENTFUL surgery. I
am 59 yrs old, I am in a wheelchair, I have an arotic anneusysm, I HAD high
blood pressure, I HAD diabetes, and I have an irregular heart beat. Notice the
word HAD. I no longer take any medications except for 1/2 heart pill,
arthritis medicine and my vitamins. I am no longer diabetic, nor do I have High
blood pressure. I have lost 75 lbs in 5 months. I am had a wonderful
experience
with this surgery and wish you the very best. I have not lost very fast
because I can't walk, but I think I will make it to the very end. If I can
answer
any questions, please feel free to ask.
Mary A. B.
LAP RNY 3/22/03
BMI 65/54
386/311 - 75 LBS.

Has anyone in the group had it done that weighed over 400lbs

2007-05-22 21:07:30

I was just wondering if anyone in the group has had the surgery and
weighed over 400lbs and how they are doing with the surgery now? Did
you get to have it Lap or was is Open. Well just a question or two..
I meet with my surgeon on the 18 of Sept and had all the nurtionist
stuff done and met with the psychologist I am so excited to begin my
new journey and can't wait to see the final results. I know I have
alot of hard work ahead of me; but really cant wait to get it done so
I will start feeling better; more active! Well any tips or advice
anyone has is greatly apprecitated. Thanks again.
Diana
pre-op

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Has anyone in the group had it done that weighed over 400lbs

2007-05-22 18:59:37

diana i also weigh over 400 pounds and i meet my surgeon the 18th of sept also
where are you from maybe we can be surgery buddies i know i need one sorta
scared right now but am also excited to finnaly be free of my weight well im
from ohio and im 26 my name is melody mcneely
sweetbabyblues382002 <sumbunnylovesu@...
anyone in the group has had the surgery and
weighed over 400lbs and how they are doing with the surgery now? Did
you get to have it Lap or was is Open. Well just a question or two..
I meet with my surgeon on the 18 of Sept and had all the nurtionist
stuff done and met with the psychologist I am so excited to begin my
new journey and can't wait to see the final results. I know I have
alot of hard work ahead of me; but really cant wait to get it done so
I will start feeling better; more active! Well any tips or advice
anyone has is greatly apprecitated. Thanks again.
Diana
pre-op

Need help

2007-05-22 03:52:58

I haven't posted in a while but I do keep up with all the posts. My
husband Omar is doing great. He is 5 months out and has lost about
165 pounds. I'm very proud of him. The question I have is this, some
one I know had open gastric bypass 10 days ago and still has her G
tube. She is having difficulty sleeping because the tube is pulling
on her stiches. Does anyone have any advice about what she could do
to help this? Omar didn't have a G tube so we really can't help her.
I hope everyone is having a sfae and relaxing weekend.
Thanks,
Dawn
Wife of a Loser

Re: SKIN ALWAYS THE FLIPPIN' SKIN THING!

2007-05-22 02:01:55

I'm not sure there is much hope to avoid having excess skin. Sorry,
not good news, but the ravages of MO or SMO on our bodies can be
clearly seen in the condition of our skin.
Certainly the less amount of weight we have to lose the smaller we
are and the less stretched our skin is, so the skin of those with
less weight to lose will obviously be less damaged. Age, hydration,
genes, time, and exercise can all play a huge role in how conditioned
our skin is and how it will bounce back after a large weightloss.
Unfortunately I believe reconstructive surgery is the only true hope
for getting rid of that excess skin.
My personal experience is that my tummy seems to have faired ok, and
although its obvious my skin has been stretched, I think I may come
away from this with only a very tiny amount of sagginess (I still
have at least another 40 lbs to lose so the total outcome remains to
be seen). I carried a lot of extra fat on my arms and now, after
losing the majority of that fat, I could swoop into a room on my huge
bat wings, and if I ever get reconstructive surgery, these will be
the first to go. My butt and hips look pretty good, no extra flesh
hanging from the booty, thank heaven, but my inner thighs are the
biggest problem area. I've got folds and it doesn't look like
they'll be going anywhere, darnitall!
Wish I could be more reassuring, but my theory is that I was dealing
with a lot of extra flesh being 160 lbs overweight anyway and at
least I could get rid of the fat within the flesh and become more
healthy and mobile. Exess skin is a side effect of weightloss I'm
willing to deal with.
Toi ~ Colorado
Lap RNY Medial Bypass
12/31/02
-118 lbs
St. Mark's Hospital
Salt Lake City, UT
Dr. Steven Simper

Lizanne &amp; TOPS

2007-05-21 18:56:51

Hi Lizanne, TOPS is at least, nation wide. I attended TOPS in Utah
about 8 years ago.
Toi

Re: Staples and reddness

2007-05-21 12:25:07

Deb, you might try a warm soak on your incision. Take a clean towel
( a hand towel size would work best) wet it with warm water and place
it on your incision for 20 minutes 2to 3 times a day. If you have a
heating pad, you can place this over the towel on a low setting to
keep the towel warm. They had me do this after one of my c-
sections. But if you do notice drainage make sure to call your
dr.Best of luck
Jill

Smoking..........................

2007-05-21 11:40:38

I was a pack a day smoker for 40 years. I smoked up until the day I
had my cervical neck infusion surgery in 1999. When I came out of
the surgery I was on oxygen and I have had trouble breathing ever
since. I went from the hospital to my daughters non-smoking home to
recouperate. When I opened my suitcase of clothes brought from my
home, I could barely stand the old stale cigerette smoke smell that
came out of that suitcase. Needless to say, my daughter washed them
all and I have never smoked or wanted to since. I suggest you smell
something that has that old stale smoke smell when you fill nasueos
and you will never want to smoke again either. You won't miss it at
all.

another southern bell?

2007-05-20 22:02:00

I'm not sure about that. Southern yes, bell, well i guess in shape.
lol but not for long. I've lost 20+lbs since I started on the
liquid diet. There was someone named Diana, in New Orleans(?) that
posted about a support group that anyone could go to, I'd really like
to know more about that.
Well, where are you having your surgery Pam? I hope yours goes
smoothly as well.
I go in Monday at midnight for surgery at 7:30am on Tuesday, I'm
really getting the willies.
I'm so sorry that I take so long to post back, but with other co-
morbities, it's hard to get around and my Fibro is in full gear right
now.
Ok, that's enough for now, I have to try to get some sleep and I will
try to read posts tomorrow and be a better family member.

Re: PSK1957//family

2007-05-20 19:53:17

Hey girl,
You have a wonderful and safe trip! Make room in that suitcase for
me!!
Pamela
11/19/02
140 lbs gone!!
Miami

Staples and reddness

2007-05-20 13:20:47

guys I think I having a reaction to the staples I'm on Pin for it
has anyone else have this happen to them.It looks great ect for the
reddness around it.Looks like it healing.Can't see the doctor to get
them out till Thursday.And is there anything that will work to clean
the site good.I'm not runnering any fever are ect just red around
it.I talk to someone and she said it's common to have this
happen.Just want to know if it's just me are anyone else had this
happen?.God Bless and Have a great weekend.a friend debkroll of Iowa.

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Lori Ann LOLOL

2007-05-20 03:33:52

Hi Toi
Nah nope not on any pain meds just me and my silly corny self LOL. My doc
did give me vicodin but I am never gonna take that stuff it is too addictive so
many superstars are addicted to that so I just won't take the chance. I am
sitting her eating my newest discovery girl..........ta ta ta da .............
strawberry kiwi sugar free jello gelatin cups and it is like ambrosia girl
mmmmm mmmmmm good now lets keep those babies out of that bathwater LOL
Lori Anne

Lori Ann LOLOL

2007-05-20 03:23:41

"You are really putting the baby before the bathwater..."
Are you still on pain meds, sweetheart? LOLOL... you know I luv ya,
hon but I just had to kid you about this one. You crack me up.
(((LORI ANN)))
Toi

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Hi, first time post

2007-05-19 22:07:50

In a message dated 8/31/2003 7:23:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
wubscooby@... writes:
I have learned
things already from reading the posts, and am looking forward to
talking with you all! Have a great day! Stella
Hi Stella
Welcome to this group you will learn so much and it will help to prepare you
for your surgery. What type of surgery are you looking at having and you must
realize that the type of surgery open or lap is determined by what your
surgeon is used to performing. I had Lap RNY and it resulted in hardly any
after
surgery pain, less internal gas discomfort and my tiny hole incisions are
already almost healed, and hardly any chance of me developing incision
infections
and hardly any chance of me getting any hernias because my tiny holes did not
need any staples to be sealed I have tiny little strips of surgical tape
covering my wounds and the doctor said to leave them in place they will fall off
by
themselves. So once again welcome to the group and enjoy :)
Lori Anne
post op Lap RNY 8/25/03
274/266/135

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] SKIN ALWAYS THE FLIPPIN' SKIN THING!

2007-05-19 14:00:30

In a message dated 8/31/2003 3:54:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jtkidd1971@... writes:
Is there anything any of you know of that helps reduce it pre-op and
helps get rid of it post op? Does your skin regain any elasticity
post op? HELP I am sinking in my own obstacles.
Hi Jtkidd
First of all remember we have abused our bodies for most of us many years me
for at least 14 years ever since my daughter was born and the skin loses it's
elasticity over time naturally. The best thing you can do as you are losing
weight after surgery is when your surgeon says you can is to start working out.
Heavy cardio and strength training workouts to firm tone and burn fat. Yes,
it means stomach crunches, leg lunges, but lifts, and the dreaded bicep,
tricep, deltoid workouts :) You have to do as much as you can to allow your
body
to readjust itself naturally. After all this hard work the excess skin that
may be left if you are uncomfortable with it or it causes you rashes you may
want it removed, but remember that is a whole other operation and I personally
am
not going to do it. Whatever cannot be toned with good hard workouts will
just remain I like a soft curvy figure anyway as opposed to a hard body LOL. MY
end result is to just look like me the early years and not a Maxxum Model
LOL. I won't be going in for anymore "work" to be done LOL, but more power to
those who do :)
Lastly don't become discouraged just getting the weight off after surgery is
the challenge come to the skin bridge when you are facing it ok. You are
really putting the baby before the bathwater and setting yourself up to be
discouraged. Sweetie one step at a time and we can all do it together so keep
asking
questions this group is wonderful and welcome to it ok nice to have you :)
Lori Anne
post op Lap RNY
8/25/03
274/266/135

Re: Denials

2007-05-19 06:44:42

Hi Carol, I think that when the insurance companies started including
WLS into their accepted plans a few years ago, there was such a boom
of people leaping at the chance for a cure that now they are getting
more and more "careful" about how they write their policies and
exclusions. Obviously the insurance companies are writing more and
more exclusions to try and lessen the amount of people that can
receive this life saving tool.
Toi

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Denials(FROM CHRISTOPHER CARROLL)

2007-05-18 21:32:48

HI CAROL, IM IN FLORIDA ALSO BUT I HAD MY SURGERY DONE IN CT. BUT IVE HEARD
ABOUT THE DENIALS, BUT THE THING IS THAT IF IT HAPPENS YOU NEED TO FIGHT FOR
WHAT YOU WANT, AND IF IT IS THIS SURGERY FIGHT IT ALL THE WAY.
PUT IT TO THEM, WOULD THEY RATHER PAY OUT AND TAKE CARE OF YOU FOR THE REST
OF YOUR LIFE, OR WOULD THEY RATHER PAY FOR THE SURGERY WERE YOU CAN GET BACK
YOUR LIFE AND GO BACK TO WORK AND PAY THEM BACK, ITS A GIVE AND TAKE SITUATION
FOR THEM.
BUT IF THEY DONT GIVE IT TO YOU, THEN TAKE THEM FOR EVERYTHING, LIKE NURSE
CARE, A MOTOR WHEEL CHAIR, EVERYTHING THATS THEIR CHOICE AND ITS GOING TO COST
THEM MORE TO DO THAT.
HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR YOU.
YOUR FRIEND IN SURGERY
CHRISTOPHER CARROLL
MICCO FLORIDA (EAST COAST)

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Denials

2007-05-18 19:18:16

In a message dated 8/31/2003 8:03:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
cjvhit2000@... writes:
I am in Florida, was
wondering what was going on in other parts of the country. Would
love to hear from the group! Thanks, Carol
Hi Carol in Florida
In NYC the WLS business seems to be booming I have not heard of any of the
insurance companies here denying anyone. Here even Medicaid covers the expense
of the operation. My Lap RNY surgery that I just finished having on 8/25/03
was completely covered under my insurance which is Health Insurance Plan of New
York (HIP/HMO). I am the first person that I know who has had the surgery in
my area so I am happy the surgery part is over. I had a great experience and
a wonderful Doctor Alan White Chief Medical Director of the Surgery
Department at Albert Einstein Hospital here in NY. Great hospital, brilliant
surgeon :)
Lori Anne
post op Lap RNY
8/25/03
274/266/135

Denials

2007-05-18 13:35:10

Hi everyone, it seems the insurance companies are issuing a lot of
denials lately, I wondered if anyone in here has noticed that too? I
am a little worried because I am about ready to have my request
submitted to my insurance and I'm afraid of being denied now. I was
not worried about this at all until recently. I am in Florida, was
wondering what was going on in other parts of the country. Would
love to hear from the group! Thanks, Carol

Hi, first time post

2007-05-18 12:51:44

Hello everyone! I just found this group. I am in the process of
trying to obtain clearances and insurance approval for lap gastric
bypass. I hope to have surgery before Christmas. I have learned
things already from reading the posts, and am looking forward to
talking with you all! Have a great day! Stella

Tia, your questions about plateaus

2007-05-17 22:07:17

Hi Tia,
I was exactly the same that you were at the beginning. I was
sooooooo worried that I would only lose to a certain point, and that
I would stop losing, just like all the thousands of diets I had been
on. Let me tell you what happened to me. About every two weeks, I
would stop losing, and my scale would be stuck for a week, sometimes
more. Then all of a sudden I would show a drop of 6-10 pounds. That
happened for like the first 3 months. I am now 4 months post op, and
the last month for me, the weight is just dropping off me. I have
lost a total of 71 pounds now in 4 months. My beginning weight was
266, and I am now 195 pounds. I cant believe I actually weigh less
than 200 pounds. Everyone is noticing a big weight loss in me, that
didnt happen very much until I lost around 50 pounds. I was very
impatient just like you are. When you take a step back and look at
it, I have actually lost more than half of what I want to lose
already, and it has only been 4 months!!!!! I really hope this helps
you, although for me I was still very impatient, no matter what
anyone told me. Just please know, that it WILL happen. You WILL lose
the weight, I promise you. I am so happy now, I went from a size 26,
and in 4 months I am in a size 16 jeans!! I know it is hard, but try
not to get on the scale very often. I spent the whole first 3 months
it seems in a plateau, and getting on the scale every day made me
feel worse. Good luck to you, and like I said, I hope this helps
you!!
Beth
4/29/03
266/195/135

SKIN ALWAYS THE FLIPPIN' SKIN THING!

2007-05-17 17:12:17

Hey guys, I am feeling a whole lot more comfortable about the surgery
and the idea is really growing on me. I just can't get past the loose
skin. I mean I am really depressed and freaking out here! I mean I
don't want to be fat anymore, but I don't really want a big ole flap
of skin hanging down like a loin cloth either. I really need to hear
from some of you who have dealt with this. Remember I am aproximately
300 pounds overweight. So I will have (I assume) a lot of excess
skin.
This tummy tuck or body lift stuff is expensive, and how many people
have been able to get there carriers to pay a penny of it? I mean
what constitutes "medical neccesity" when it comes to this?
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thud Thud Thud as my head hits my desk.
Is there anything any of you know of that helps reduce it pre-op and
helps get rid of it post op? Does your skin regain any elasticity
post op? HELP I am sinking in my own obstacles.

Re: Connie

2007-05-17 16:23:19

Thanks, Deb. I don't know how reliable my source was, I'm glad it
works for you. I hear it's one of the best-tasting of the protein
powders.
Connie

question about Walter Lindstrom

2007-05-17 03:59:28

Hello everyone,
Some of you may remember me asking questions on behalf of my sister.
I have had the surgery myself, I am doing pretty good. My sister
desperately needs the surgery and has hit every wall there is to hit,
and all the walls behind those walls. Both her and I have written
Walter Lindstrom on numerous occasions, and we have never received
any kind of response, even if it is simply there is nothing he can
do. I was wondering if anyone has had any type of feedback from him
personally. Is there a particular question we should be asking or
doing? I do wish he would at least reply. She is so close to the
end of her life right now, I am so scared I will lose her before she
can get help.
Thanks,
Beth
4/29/03
266/195/135

PSK1957//family

2007-05-17 03:59:22

hey pam. leaving the country for a while. haha, that sounded
funny. anyhow, the space i saved in my suitcase b/c of small
clothes is now stuffed with supplements.
i'll return wednesday & will then read all the posts & personal
emails. just completed day 1 of my protein fast, it's a great
feeling.
lori h.

Re: Insurance question -- punishment

2007-05-16 22:40:28

Deb,
I have gone to obesityhelp.com but have not been able to find
anything on insurance. Even when I did a search using "insurance", I
got lost. I'm not reallllllly stupid, maybe I was just sleepy, I
tried it when I just woke up this morning. There are all kinds of
listing on the left side of the screen, but I haven't been able to
find anything on insurance. Could you be more specific? Please.
Thank you
Lizanne
pre-op forever

Connie

2007-05-16 09:30:50

Dear Connie,
I religiously use the Champion products once a day and have been for the
past 11 months. I take my vitamins and supplements as recommended by my pcp
and surgeon and my levels (with the exception of iron) have come back
perfect, consistently on at least 3 blood tests over the past nine months so
I know that between the Champion and the food I'm eating, I'm getting enough
protein. Good luck in your search.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/235/160
BMI 60/34.7/24
-151
-69.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] welcome home wolfie!!!!!!!!`

2007-05-16 03:27:40

In a message dated 8/30/2003 6:03:55 PM Central Standard Time,
wlslori@... writes:
welcome to the post-op adventure. life'll never ever be the same!
(((wolfie)))
lori h.
I am finding that out every meal, lol. Thanks for the welcome.
Wolfie
Post-Op
Leeds, Alabama
Surgery Date-August 27th
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] WOW I have lost weight already :)

2007-05-15 22:59:49

Lori Anne :)
Great Job!!! WTG Welcome to the losing side :)
Ruth
Post op Open RNY
Dr Bruce Thayer MA
386/204/???
Oct 29,2002
Grimmlah1@... wrote:
Hello all just wanted to let you all know I am freaking out over here in the
Bronx, NY. I had my Lap RNY on 8/25/03 and today is only 8/30/03 and I have
already lost 8 pounds WOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!! :))))))))))
I started off on my day of surgery at 274 my personal goal because I was 293
pounds as of 04/30/03 so I lost weight on my own because my surgeon had strict
rules and I had to have lost 10 pounds by surgery day and I showed him I lost
even more LOL and now in only a few short days I am at 266 pounds this is the
lowest I have weighed in about 10 years LOL This surgery ROCKS!!!
I am drinking my liquids and taking my vitamins everything gets crushed up
and taken with a little bit of liquid. I am on the clear liquid diet right now
and all I can say is wow, but I will not be stepping on the scale again until
my 2 week appointment with my surgeon at his office so I think I will be
really happy. I have heard of people losing 20 pounds in the first 2 weeks
following surgery hopefully I will be one of them:) I have my fingers, toes and
eyes
crossed for good luck.
Thank you Jesus for this surgery:)
Lori Anne
post op
Lap RNY 8/25/03
274/266/135

welcome home wolfie!!!!!!!!`

2007-05-15 17:03:51

welcome to the post-op adventure. life'll never ever be the same!
(((wolfie)))
lori h.

Re: Champion pure whey stack protein

2007-05-15 15:42:20

I do not know if this research is true or not, but the protein
bucket i bought at GNC is American 100% Whey Protein and the first
item on the list of ingredients is 100% cold filtered whey isolate.
I like the chocolate, but plan to buy some other flavors as i am
sure i will get sick of chocolate..lol
Lori -MI
Open RnY
8-1-03
-24lbs

Learning a lot

2007-05-15 04:42:47

Hi everyone,
This is only my second posting, but I have been reading what everyone
else posts and have learned alot. Thanks.
One thing I've learned about is the liver enzyme problem. I have an
area just to the right of my incision. It hurts mainly when I move
or twist wrong, not all the time. My dr. told me it was just a
muscle and common. My question to those of you who have had liver
problems is - Was that a constant pain? Or does it get better and
worse?
Another question I had is about dumping. What is it like? What
should I do to get through it? Lie down and wait for it to pass?
Third question. my program recommends No Sugar Added Carnation
instant Breakfast for our protien supplement. Anybody else using
this?
Thanks for your time. I had my open RNY 8/7/03 in Green Bay, WI.
Anyone else from this area?
Debbie

Re: WOW I have lost weight already :)

2007-05-15 02:08:52

Aint it all Wondamous?!?!? You sound so much more chipper than I
ever did at your stage, lol maybe it was because I was having to
travel and stuff. THat 8 lbs is just the beginning hon. WTG
Toi

WOW I have lost weight already :)

2007-05-14 21:44:36

Hello all just wanted to let you all know I am freaking out over here in the
Bronx, NY. I had my Lap RNY on 8/25/03 and today is only 8/30/03 and I have
already lost 8 pounds WOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!! :))))))))))
I started off on my day of surgery at 274 my personal goal because I was 293
pounds as of 04/30/03 so I lost weight on my own because my surgeon had strict
rules and I had to have lost 10 pounds by surgery day and I showed him I lost
even more LOL and now in only a few short days I am at 266 pounds this is the
lowest I have weighed in about 10 years LOL This surgery ROCKS!!!
I am drinking my liquids and taking my vitamins everything gets crushed up
and taken with a little bit of liquid. I am on the clear liquid diet right now
and all I can say is wow, but I will not be stepping on the scale again until
my 2 week appointment with my surgeon at his office so I think I will be
really happy. I have heard of people losing 20 pounds in the first 2 weeks
following surgery hopefully I will be one of them:) I have my fingers, toes and
eyes
crossed for good luck.
Thank you Jesus for this surgery:)
Lori Anne
post op
Lap RNY 8/25/03
274/266/135

Re: Chewable Vitamins

2007-05-14 19:17:21

Hi Deb :)
Yes, the Centrum Chewables are great :) Even better, I've found,
are the Bariatric Advantage vitamins. All but the iron are chewable
and they taste great! (although they taste much better when sucked
on as opposed to chewed)
Taking my vitamins is like a treat now :) Check out
www.bariatricadvantage.com (and nope, I don't work for them)
:) Caroline
Lap RNY 5/2/03
367/288/150
My WLS Journey: www.tinyurl.com/bkld

Champion pure whey stack protein

2007-05-14 10:39:02

According to the article by Catherine Wilbert, referenced on this
site, whey isolate is much better absorbed by the body than whey
concentrate. I had just bought a gigantic container of Champion pure
whey stack powder and looked on the ingredients and saw that whey
concentrate is listed first, and whey isolate second. So according
to the article, a product with just whey isolate is better absorbed
by the body. I guess I will send back the Champion and get another
brand. Of course the products with just whey isolate are more
expensive. Has anyone seen any other clinical documentation on this
subject?? Thanks.
Connie
preop 9/17/03

RE: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Couple of questions?

2007-05-14 08:07:19

I still do the majority of cooking for my family. My dh's job requires alot
of travel and I am a SAHM to three boys ages 6, 3, and 2. My kids love
fish so I am fortunate. I just put some lemon pepper and can't believe it's
butter and broil whatever fish I have picked. Sometime's my 6 year old will
call out why type of fish he would like for dinner. The smells never
bothered me. In fact 4 days after I had my surgery my sister and her bf
were visiting and I made a full dinner with ribs, potatoes and bread for
them all, then went on and ate my broth. The cooking didn't bother me the
only thing that made me mad was that they left all there empty dishes at my
table and expected me to clean them (dh did it). My dh is average weight
for his size so he really hasn't lost. The cool things is that we are of 2
pounds differnce from one another right now and I am getting ready to pass
him lol. Only 2 more pounds and I am at 200 so alittle excited about that.
You will do great and your family will adapt!
Mel
Open RNY May2,2003
289/202/150

Insurance question -- punishment

2007-05-13 22:24:27

Dear punishment (don't know your name, sorry),
Go to obesityhelp.com and go to their insurance category, then put in
whatever section of the country you are in and you can look up
doctors that accept your insurance on that page. Good luck in your
search.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been
hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/235/160
BMI 60/34.7/24
-151
-69.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

RE: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] United HealthCare

2007-05-13 12:54:10

Where are you? There are several here in the Tulsa area
Pat

Re: United HealthCare

2007-05-13 08:19:21

where are you located? have you tried obesityhelp?
lori h.

Re: Couple of questions?

2007-05-13 06:07:07

hi jill. it's been a process. the 1st few months i wasn't hungry,
there was a while there where i didn't eat dinner... most of the
time i have a smaller amount of what i cook for dh. & yeah, he's
eating healthier now.
lori h.
16 grateful months out

United HealthCare

2007-05-12 21:07:21

I just got my approval letter, but only to find out that the doctor I spoke
to isn't on the plan. I can't afford the out of pocket.
Does anyone know a good dr. covered by United HealthCare?

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Diana...coconut?

2007-05-12 15:59:35

Why no coconut?
Danielle M
Peace Out :o)

Couple of questions?

2007-05-12 11:04:01

I am the main cook in my family. Did anyone have problems while
cooking? Problems with nausea or not being able to tolerate the
smells.
I also wonder about how your diet affects the family. Did anybodies
families lose weight because of the change in their eating habits? I
would love to have this affect my overweight husband and slightly
overweight 13 and 14 year olds.
Jill
271/preop

All Aboard!!!!!!

2007-05-12 08:32:25

toot!! toot!!
is it my big dogs or is it me?
btw, holding it in is great, it's part of my Kegel exercises, lol.
lori h.

Chewable Vitamins

2007-05-11 17:53:29

I found and was told that this is a Great Chewable Vitamin to take
after my surgery Centrum Advance Formula Multvitamin has everything
and only would have to take one a day.Sounds great to me.Plus don't
taste bad too Orange flavor.13 Vitamins and 10 Minerals all in
one.The only thing might need is the Vitamin B12 shot which I was
also better then the tablet under the tonge.The cost is cheap 9.00
for 50 tablets.And also found a Whey Protein Powder that was around
12 to 14 dollars a big container.Not to bad and in chocolate.I hope
this helps someone whom can't afford to spend alot.God Bless and
Have a great weekend and Labor Day.a friend debkroll of Iowa.

Re: Thanks everyone

2007-05-11 16:46:48

your choices, among several are: edit your membership, & switch to
"no email,i'll read messages @ the website" OR edit your membership to
"leave group" OR i'll go ahead & unsubscribe you.
lori h.

RE: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] So Sad

2007-05-11 08:47:24

That is the pits!!! Dont they know that the reason we are looking at this
surgery is because diets dont work for us. We might lose weight for a
while, but it creeps back on, usually bringing more little pound buddies
with it. Dont get discouraged. Hang in there.
Charlotte
Pre-op (tomistic)

Re: update on wolfie`

2007-05-11 00:52:16

thanx for the info. pls send her my love & yes day 2 post-op is no
picnic.
lori h.

Hi Everyone I'm Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccckkkkk...

2007-05-10 19:56:08

In a message dated 8/29/2003 11:33:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Leeds@...
writes:
Girls,
We'll all be wearing mini skirts, tank tops and low cut jeans while
exploring Disney, right? LOL
Tanya
You know it Tanya let the fur fly LOL I am gonna let it all hang out in a
sexy way of course LOL.
Lori Anne
post op Lap RNY
8/25/03

Re: So Sad

2007-05-10 15:05:32

Hi Lizanne,
Bless your heart. I am so, so sorry that you have to go through this.
Hang in there, appeal the decision or do anything that you have to do
BUT don't give up!!! I'm new to the group and maybe the oldies have
better words of wisdom but I'm here for you.
I haven't been to a Surgeon consult yet so I don't know what's in
store for me, but I do know that I am determined to have this surgery
know matter what. I will not give up even if I have to wait 2 years.
Your WLS friend,
Chris
Preop
280/ /150

update on wolfie`

2007-05-10 10:14:15

Hi--I just got an email from wolfie's (JoJo) sister--she says that
her pain is better today, and she hopes to be going home on Saturday
(or to her mom's home).
connie

So Sad

2007-05-10 03:36:49

I found out today that I have to go through 2 years of doctor managed
weight loss (diets) before I can be approved. I am so sad. I've
been working on thsi is Jan 15, and now I find out all the rules have
just changed.
I told my boss today that it would be at least two years before I can
have the surgery. His reply "Praise the Lord".
I can't stop crying. Sorry, I just had to tell someone.
Lizanne

Re: Protein shake question

2007-05-09 18:43:02

Hi Lori,
If you are going to do shakes for just a few days to get back on
track, why don't you try the premixed ones. I use Myoplex Carb Sense
or Low Carb. It comes in Chocolate, Vanilla and Strawberry. I adore
the chocolate and strawberry, even though I'm not a strawberry
person. Just keep them cold. I like them over crushed ice, my fridge
delivers it that way so it's easy for me. At WalMart a box of 4
shakes is $5.50, a little more expensive than the powdered stuff,
but I think well worth it.
Have a good trip!
Michelle

"Borrowed" this topic: Who &amp;/or What is your inspiration?

2007-05-09 15:48:54

yeah, i got this one from spotlight.
with God's help, i hold on tight to my dreams & aspirations. my
supportive hubb inspires me to be a better person. my "in the future"
baby (babies?) also keep me going. my wls friends & i inspire &
coach one another. my late mom also is part of my drive & self
improvement efforts. my incredible & athletic brother also "inspires"
me, hehe can't call me chubby any more.
mmm, i have co-workers who are like family members. i'm fortunate to
have met a few kind, phenomenal wls docs. & my PCP who is quick with
a compliment & a hug & kiss.
who am i leaving out in my acceptance speech, hehehe: my super cyber
family, can't forget my daily source of info, comraderie, support, &
high fives!!!
lori h.

Hi Everyone I'm Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccckkkkk...

2007-05-09 06:31:39

In a message dated 8/28/2003 7:50:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
debkroll212003@... writes:
God Bless and Glad your
great.a friend debkroll of Iowa,Surgery date Aug.18,2003,Wt#
357.5/339.5/180 or better haha.God bless and God helps us everystep
of the
way.
Hey DebKroll girl how are ya?
Thank you for all your beautiful and kind words and yes it is sooo good to be
back and with the surgery behind me I am raring to go and amaze my coworkers
at watching me shrink right before their sweet eyes. I feel so blessed to
have this group and such a wonderful bunch of supportive and beautiful people to
turn to thank you so much and you keep up the good work you sweet inspiration
you :)
Lori Anne
post op lap RNY 8/25/03

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Splenda

2007-05-09 05:33:08

In a message dated 8/28/2003 6:46:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
momfirst2000@... writes:
I found this really good drink at costco but i need to make sure it
is ok for drinking . It is called diet botanical ice . No soduim, no
sugar not fat it is flavored water withsplenda and is so easy to
drink . am i hurting myself i dont know much about splenda..
thanks
Peggy
322 waiting
Nah Peggy it sounds great and we can have splenda and I have to send my dad
to costco LOL to pick me up some LOL
Lori Anne
post op lap RNY 8/25/03
274/270/135

Hi Everyone I'm Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccckkkkk...

2007-05-08 19:07:58

In a message dated 8/28/2003 8:34:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
funmomof2@... writes:
Leave them on as
long as possible. I got anxious and just wanted to look underneath
one and thats the one that just doesnt want to heal properly!
Hi (((((((((((MICHELLE))))))))))))))
I am so happy to see you are ok and doing so well girl curiosity killed the
cat my momma always used to say LOL. My surgeon's assistant warned me to leave
the surgi strips in place and let them fall off on their own. The only one I
replace after a shower is the gauze over the hole where the drain was pulled
out. That hole is about the size of my pinky even smaller so after a shower I
just replace the gauze and put more surgi tape to hold the fresh gauze in
place. Remember we want no scars and when they are all healed up I will start
applying some mederma on them LOL. Mederma has a smaller sized tube for about
14 bucks a pop now and it is a godsend. So lets just take it easy for now
Michelle my belle and give out bodies a break LOL we can dooooooooo
etttttttttttttt lol.
Hugs
Lori Anne
post op lap RNY 8/25/03

Hi Everyone I'm Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccckkkkk...

2007-05-08 19:03:23

Girls,
We'll all be wearing mini skirts, tank tops and low cut jeans while
exploring Disney, right? LOL
Tanya

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Protein shake question

2007-05-08 10:24:42

Hi, Lori!
I've had great success just mixing the OptiPro with just a spoon.
http://www.nutrisportonline.com/index.html
The vanilla caramel and the strawberry are excellent. If you'd like some
samples, you can send me your address off list and I'll send them to you. :-)
Diana

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Stretch Marks???

2007-05-08 05:44:39

In a message dated 8/28/2003 9:38:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 1104@...
writes:
Hi,
I was wondering if any of you guys had stretch marks and do they
fade or start to go away after sugery when you start losing alot of
weight?
Hi
Luckily my stretch marks are my exact skin tone so I don't have to worry
about them but I would use mederma or Palmer's skin success stretch mark cream
with cocoa butter to keep the skin really moisturized
Lori Anne
post op lap RNY 8/25/03

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] ((((Lori Ann))))

2007-05-07 22:42:26

(((((((((((((((((TOI))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Thank you so much girl yup I am finally on the losing side LOL. I am making
sure to get my vitamins in and water and mmmmmmmm sugar free jello is my new
love and getting rest :) My dad said to me this morning hey what you just had
done is the same thing that AL Roker had done .... right and I said yup and
he said wow LOL my people are just a little slow on the up take girl hehehehe
but I love em dearly. I am contacting Disney today to ensure that all is well
with our reservation and I can begin to work on the next newsletter packed
with info this weekend LOL
Lori Anne
post op lap RNY 8/25/03

Protein shake question

2007-05-07 16:59:53

hi family! who makes their shakes w/out a blender or mixer? i'm
asking because i'll be out of the country for a few days & am planning
to bring along prot powder & i guess a tupperware thingie & want to
just shake the thing. too much of a drag to travel w/ a blender.
which brand(s) blend well manually?
thanx!
lori h.
re-starting shakes, it's been a while:-)

Re: Hi Everyone I'm Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccckkkkk...

2007-05-07 07:27:01

sounding great, girl! isn't it funny all the things we discuss, like
GAS?! hehehe, i'm such a giggly kid.
& yes, my 1st shower was incredible, though exhausting. before that,
i "baby wiped" myself a billion times. i remember being out of breath
from shampooing...
& yes, you'll be sporting low-rise jeans, before you know it.
lori h.

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] Trish and Lori Anne

2007-05-07 05:19:31

In a message dated 8/28/2003 11:41:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
zoes.mom@... writes:
Just because you feel great, please remember not to
overdo. You are recovering from major surgery and your body will need a bit
of rest. Be gentle with yourself and optimize your recuperation period.
Hi ((((((((((((((((DEB)))))))))))))))))))))))))
I am listening to you and others and I am taking it easy. One of my friends
talked me down off a clean up the house high I was gonna sweep the floors and
mop because it looked like my house had a tornado hit while I was gone LOL.
Wow what a dad and child can do to a house over 3 days LOL but I asked my dad
to sweep and mop and he did I mean come on the kitchen tile which is usually
white was black with foot marks and Koolaid spills LOL. But my house is spic
and span again LOL and I can comfortably rest. I am still shocked at the amount
of gas that escapes LOL wow hard to be lady like with explosions like that I
hope it all settles down by the time I have to go back to work LOL or I am
gonna rock peoples worlds and not in a good way lucky I have my own office and I
always have air fresheners plugged in LOL.
I am contacting the Disney guy today to ensure that all is well.
((((((((((((DEB)))))))))))))
Lori Anne
post op lap rny 8/25/03
274/270/135

Re: I'm new! Help

2007-05-06 16:10:58

hi lori gracybell, (there's a bunch of lori's on here).
it's nice to share your journey, we're all ears (eyes). can you get
to an in person support group? you'll get tons of answers there, too.
lori h.

Re: Thanks Sheryl

2007-05-06 16:01:16

you did ok just now. press "reply" if you're reading messages @ the
website.
lori h.

Re: Stretch Marks???

2007-05-06 09:10:39

good question, yep, the extra 100+ lbs gave me stretch marks, on my
belly & shoulders. they appear to have faded a tiny bit.
lori h.

Hi Everyone I'm Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccckkkkk...

2007-05-06 06:56:42

Hi Lori H
I am doing great. I actually have more energy than I thought I would but I
am taking it easy I have several guardian angels LOL at home and from work that
are making me take it easy. I was in the hospital from Monday morning to
Thursday afternoon. I never hardly felt any pain from the lap RNY and now my
tummy rumbles and it cracks me up but when the gas comes out it is like
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
:) My doctor prescribed me with centrum with lycopene and something called
protein nix and vicodin pills but I don't need the vicodin because my tiny
little holes don't hurt at all they are covered with surgi tape and the drain
hole
is covered with gauze and tape so when I take a shower and yes I had my first
real blessed shower last night it felt so good to have running hot water all
over LOL washed away all the hospital junk LOL. Before I left the hospital I
gave my roomie two multicolored baby spoons and tips on how to go to the
bathroom at first and how to sip the liquids when they provide her with it and I
told her about this support group. She had the same RNY but the open procedure
and that cut was really kicking her butt!! Poor thing I could tell by how much
pain she was in all night long I heard her pressing for her pain meds at
least 27 times the nurse said that a whole lot of morphine because you can press
the button for pain meds every 6 minutes. I hardly pressed mine the first day
and then even less than that each subsequent day I was at a pain level of 2
starting from the 2nd day after surgery. I am telling you in my opinion if you
can receive this operation the Lap way do it no scars and so little pain it is
incredible LOL. My nurse who discharged me said for me to come back next
year in my low cut jeans and tiny tank top so she can see me and I told her I
promise lol although I don't see any low cut jeans in my future but then again
as
soon as my doctor says it's ok I am gonna work it out with the bootcamp at
home video series and tone up this old bod lol. I am glad surgery is over
though and it is a major decision NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. Hooray now I can get
back to the Disney planning I have to contact the reservationist and make sure
he received all my info so take care Lori H you are my inspiration along with
others in this group.
(((((((((((((((((((((LORI H)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0
Lori Anne
post op 8/25/03
274/270/135

Hazel, another southern bell...lol

2007-05-05 18:32:13

Hiya Hazel,
Glad to see ya here. I live in Jefferson Parish. I will have my lap bypass on
Sept. 8th. Keep a positive attitude and all will go well.
Have a great one
Pam C
mom2nanny2@... wrote:
Hi Lori Ann,
Where are you from? Better yet where did you have your surgery? My
name is Hazel, I'm in St. Bernard Parish, just outside of New Orleans. My
surgery is 9/2 with Dr Scalia at WMC at St. Charles General Hospital. I'm
hoping
my surgery goes as smooth as yours!!!!!
Hazel

Re: How Long For Approval?

2007-05-05 16:34:37

tammy, have you tried obesityhelp.com, their insurers section?
lori h.

Thanks Sheryl

2007-05-05 05:34:31

Someone help please.
I am having trouble understanding this site. Anytime you want to
reply to someone do you have to go through a normal post on the left
side of your screen?
Lori

I'm new! Help

2007-05-05 01:32:55

Hi,
My name is Lori and I am new to this group. I am considering Gastric
Bypass surgery and just had my first consultation with my surgeon.
He suggested that I learn as much as possible about the surgery
before I commit. I really need to do something because I am
borderline diabetic, my cholesterol is 240. My mother died of a
massive heart attack and my brother had a triple bypass. I am a
decorative painter and I am having trouble climbing ladders, climbing
scaffolding and carrying my supplies. I started my own decorative
painting business about 3 years ago and it has grown by leaps and
bounds but I am at 260 lbs. It get more and more difficult to meat
with clients and designers without feeling awkward. I try not to let
it bother me but It is really affecting how people view me in my work
and its affecting how I can accomplish my work. I get so out of
breath carrying my portfolio to meet clients that it's embarrassing
to go into their homes or places of business and be so out of breath
that it's difficult to carry on a conversation. Can some of you out
there who have already had this surgery please tell me the pros and
cons. Most of all, are you hungry all the time?
Lori

Re: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] I'm new! Help

2007-05-04 22:51:32

Lori
welcome to the group. you will be making a great decision. and no you aren't
hungry all the time. sometimes hardly at all. i will write you more later.
hang in there girl. and get ready for the thrill of a lifetime.
sheryl

Trish and Lori Anne

2007-05-04 15:22:32

Dear Trish,
I'm assuming you've had lap surgery. Many many lap patients complain about
a pain on the left side. The incision there is the largest and that's where
the majority of the work has been done (I also believe they use rib
spreaders over there and that's why the pain is so strong in that area). It
will get better with the passage of time. Good luck and I hope you feel
better soon...
Dear Lori Anne, my sweetie,
I've been offline since Tuesday night and was just wondering about you and
up you popped in my digest. I'm soooooooooo happy for you that you are a
new success story. Just because you feel great, please remember not to
overdo. You are recovering from major surgery and your body will need a bit
of rest. Be gentle with yourself and optimize your recuperation period.
I'm so happy that you're back and posting already...
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/235/160
BMI 60/34.7/24
-151
-69.5"
Angel to Bill, Debbie (10/14/03) Ilene, Roy, and Ro

Re: Hi Everyone I'm Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!!...

2007-05-04 08:06:04

Hi Lori Ann,
Where are you from? Better yet where did you have