Gastric Bypass

hey all
first and formost let me appoligize for not posting or replying to
anything in a long while i have had to deal with a few problems
one problem was school as some of you know school started on the
11th for me and i guess it was too soon for me to go back to doing
that sitting there for an hour or so about half killed me also the
school did not want to deal with any of my issues either being the
surg or my iep so yeah i had the last lunch of the day and there was
nothing they could do about it my lunch started at 1:30 thats a bit
long for me to have to wait teachers would not let me take a water
bottle as per drs orders and even with a note to the schoolso i am
no longer going to that school and i am now being homeschooled!
on tuesday of last week i started expierancing a horrible pain in
the top part of my insision and on thursday it started looking like
a blister so i went to the dr on fri and i was told i had an absess
i think thats how you spell it and my mom called my surgeons off
that day too and my dr has this habbit of calling me on saturdays
but hes said that its fat trying to get out as i am loosing it quite
fast he said that because i couldnt get rid of it fast enough throuh
natural ways (the potty way lol) that it was gonna find its own way
out so it decided to go out through my insision and man when the
nurse opened it it drained forever and still is draining and it is
quite nasty other tyan that i am doing just fine and i thank all of
you for being soo supportive always
sarah
aka moodychick
surg date:july 21 03
start weight:341.8
now weight:313.5 i think lol have to weight till fri lol

Honey, I felt just like you.. I thought I had all the answers too and now, I
am out in the cold, except I'm not that lucky! I'm hotter than hell.. And I
thought, "what have I done to myself? WHAT HAVE I DONE??" I'm still going
through it.. My mother wants the surgery and it's soooooo hard to be supportive
when I feel like crap.. Physically and emotionally.. I'm hoping this is just a
couple month post-op depression and not one that's going to affect me for the
rest of my life. But others say it's the best thing they could have ever done..
I'm feeling alone here sometimes.. I'm sick and I wasn't physically hungry in
the beginning but now I am.. And I'm scared to eat.. I'm scared to get sick..
Hell, I'm even scared to leave home.. I'm scared of fainting and dehydration..
All I think about is food but I NEVER eat.. I do keep in fluids though and
some broths.. But that's about it besides the vitamins and Calcium.. Let's just
pray together that we get better and have great success.. That's the only
thing that get's me through is looking down the road.. to a successful future,
happier and healthier body.. If this doesn't happen, I don't know what.. Later.
Kimberly Greer

Hi Lori; Thanks for informing me.. I've kind of kept out of touch with
everyone lately because of my post-op traumas, but now I'm coming back around
some..
Is this common??? Or am I'm in a ballpark of my own???
Yeah, I have had some depression due to wls.. I am sick often. And I mean
OFTEN.. I've had infection and I've bursted open right where the bend of my
waist
is from cleaning my house.. But hey, life goes on.. I'm dealing with it.. I'm
taking my vitamins and calcium but I cannot keep anything down besides water
and broth.. They tell me to try eggs, cottage cheese, and mashed potatoes, but
they all make me sick too.. And I hardly eat but two bites before I'm
throwing up.. They say bland is good.. The blander, the better.. I've done
nothing
but bland and it's just not working.. The protein stuff I've completely gave up
on because I'm so sick of it by now.. And my doctor's advanced me but I cannot
eat anything and I won't even attempt either, because I have a FEAR that I'll
get sick.. And my weight loss has slowed as well.. I don't understand.. I'm
starving physically but I'm no longer dropping the weight. Everyone's worried
about me because they say I don't eat and I'm white as a ghost, but hopefully
this will pass shortly. I don't know how much more I can take.. I've had
fever, and I dehydrate very easily.. I'm scared to leave home because I have the
fear of getting sick or fainting in public. And I do believe this is affecting
me emotionally too.. I'm just praying that I'll get through it.. Thanks for
writing Lori.. It was quite considerate.. How are you doing yourself? Let me
know g/f. It was nice hearing from you..
Kimberly Greer
333/293.5/?????
surgery was July 18, 2003

(fixed the typo in the subject line, i'm the stinkiest keyboardist on
earth)

thought the replies may help the pre-ops that are starting their
journeys.
if i remember right i checked my insurance policy to find a list of
providers. strangely enough, back then, i had yet to meet a post-op,
& now i've met a couple hundred, hehe.
lori h.

i'm rooting for you, hunny!!! it hurts to hear about all the
hassles, but let's be optimistic. your case should be a slam dunk,
you're 100% a candidate for wls. it's too obvious what's going on
too: that they're waiting for your cobra to expire, but FIGHT 'EM!!! i
can't imagine what NHP will have to say for their sorry selves. chin
up!!
lori h.

Vicky,
good luck tomorrow. I am praying for you.
Denise
Vicky <ravigold@...
Just an update ---
Tomorrow afternoon at 1:30 I have my hearing in front of the State
Insurance Commission to decide if I get my surgery or not. NHP will
be there with their lawyer and I'll be there with my doctor.
They say this is really un-bias. 2 Doctors, 2 nurses and 3 insurance
people who decide purely on the facts. No emotion only whats in
black and white.
This is the end of the line for me. If they say NO I don't have
anywhere else to go so PLEASE pray for me!!!!
I WANT TO BE A LOOSER LIKE ALL OF YOU! :)
Vicky
350lbs - pre op.
Date for Surgery - Who knows?!?

Well it's pretty evident that Mona, you've showed yours.. (Stupidity, if not
a**).. Lighten up.. This is a support group, not somewhere you can vent your
hostile demeaning attitude towards others. Maybe you should look into a local
counseling center. It seems you may need more help than what is offered here.
Later...
Kimberly GREER

Just an update ---
Tomorrow afternoon at 1:30 I have my hearing in front of the State
Insurance Commission to decide if I get my surgery or not. NHP will
be there with their lawyer and I'll be there with my doctor.
They say this is really un-bias. 2 Doctors, 2 nurses and 3 insurance
people who decide purely on the facts. No emotion only whats in
black and white.
This is the end of the line for me. If they say NO I don't have
anywhere else to go so PLEASE pray for me!!!!
I WANT TO BE A LOOSER LIKE ALL OF YOU! :)
Vicky
350lbs - pre op.
Date for Surgery - Who knows?!?

In the beginning...
:-)
God populated the earth with broccoli and cauliflower and spinach, green and
yellow and red vegetables of all kinds, so Man and Woman would live long and
healthy lives.
Then Satan created Tim Horton's and Baskin Robin's.
And Satan said, "You want chocolate with that?"
And Man and Woman said "Yeah, and another one with sprinkles." And they gained
10 pounds. :-P
And God created the healthful yogurt that woman might keep the figure that man
found so fair. And Satan brought forth white flour from the wheat, and sugar
from the cane, and combined them.
And woman went from size 3 to size 9.:-[ So God said, "Try my fresh green
salad." And Satan presented Thousand-Island Dressing and garlic toast on the
side. And man and woman had to unfasten their belts.
God then said, "I have sent you heart healthy vegetables and olive oil in which
to cook them." And Satan brought forth deep fried fish and chicken-fried steak
so big it needed its own platter.
And man gained more weight and his cholesterol went through the roof. :-(
God then brought running shoes so that his children might lose those extra
pounds. And Satan gave cable TV with a remote control so man would not have to
toil changing the channels. And man and woman watched TV and gained more pounds.
Then God brought forth the potato, naturally low in fat and brimming with
nutrition. And Satan peeled off the healthful skin and sliced the starchy center
into chips and deep-fried them. And man and woman gained another ten pounds. :-P
God then gave lean beef so that man and woman might consume fewer calories and
still satisfy their appetite. And Satan created McDonald's and it's 99-cent
double cheeseburger. Then said, "You want fries with that?" And man replied,
"Yea! And super size 'em." ;-) And Satan said "It is good." And man went into
cardiac arrest.
God sighed and created quadruple bypass surgery.
And Satan created BC Medical Services Plan :-(
Tess

lol!!!! I have to forward that one to everyone I know.. I've been having
severe depression these days, since surgery... You brought great joy to my day!
After you think about it, maybe life is good afterall..
Kimberly Greer

From what I have read of all your experiences and problems, I wish I could
give you all my Dr.!! He gives you a lot of info up front and afterward
too. My surgery is to be on 9-15 but I already have a good idea of what to
expect for the most part. Not only that but he has Bariatric Buddies who
visit you in the hospital and you can call them for advice if
necessary--plus a nurse in his office has had the surgery and she offers her
phone number for you to call her with questions 24/7. He also has a monthly
meeting of patients where you can meet others and ask any questions you may
have at that time. He also (for those close enough) meets everyone who
wants at the mall every Sat. morning for a 2 mile "mall walk" where he
answers questions again. I believe Dr. Bosquez in Tulsa. Ok must be more
interested in his patients than most. I just wish I lived closer to him.
He also has some of the group who conduct a clothing exchange to let you
share smaller size clothes as you lose to still smaller sizes. Isn't that
great? I feel confident I will have lots of support from him. I learned
about him from a family of four who all had the surgery with him and lost
lots of weight. But even with all this I am grateful I found a site like
this to check into as I feel I will learn lots from what you all have to say
also. Thanks.

is there a different med that your doc can recommend? i was given the
choice of a few, like Mylicon & Flatulex, didn't need 'em b/c the
mylanta, tums & pepcid worked. i call it my sour stomach & i endured
(sometimes still do) lots of misery, trust me.
lori h.
15 super grateful months

Is anyone out there that is unable to eat anything but maybe soups and is
experiencing excessive colic (stomach cramps) and is unable to toot or poop
correctly!????? I am and the Mylanta the doc recommended is not working. I
even took some Correct-All (sp)
1 tablet in morning and one late evening and even that doesn't help! I feel
miserable!
Rosario

for all of you that have done liquid fasts, what did of labs/follow-
ups did you have? i sometimes wanna do weekend fasts & was wondering
if i should recruit my PCP or if i could just wing it.
lori h.

About the juice, you will dilute the juice with water so that it will be less
sugar content and you only drink half a cup. The 100% juice sugar content is
from the fruit so it is different then just having plain sugar. I had that same
question and that is what the nutritionist said. You will do great tomorrow
just remember to get up and walk, walk, walk, and make sure you sip those
liquids as soon as you have your leek test. Good luck and see you on the other
side.
Chris B.
Surgery date 7/23/03
301/277/150?
BTC/ Columbus OH
Dr.Stelmack
Open RNY

REFERENCING OPTIFAST: Jess...I went on Medifast, which is like Optifast
about 10 years ago. I was on it for three months, nothing to eat, only
drank Medifast and water and lost 80 pounds. After about 2 weeks, you
have no hunger and start feeling great. I still drink it for breakfast
every day as I really like it and use it as my breakfast. If you are
going to do it for a few weeks, you will lose quite a few pounds and you
should start feeling more energy. Good Luck...Carol

The best to ya Deb!!!!! I'm right behind ya!
Wolfie
Pre-Op
Leeds, Alabama
Surgery Date-August 27th
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

I just wanted to THANKS and GOD BLESS you all of your thoughts for
me today.I'm leaving home about 30 mins from now.So see you all on
the Losing side.Love Ya Guy your the BEST.a friend debkroll of
IOWA,Today I'll be here.P.S.I'll yell in a couple of days Bye.

CLick on the Edit my Membership and at the bottom of the page there
is an option to quit the group.
~Tanja

In all of my paperwork, it says that they put you on Actigall if you
end up keeping your gallbladder to help so that your gallbladd does
not act up. I havent started taking it yet, but it is one of my
questions for my first post op visit to Dr. Powell. Where in
California do you live?
Michelle

Did anybody's Doc put them on Actigall or Ursodiol post op for upper
abdimal, nausea/vomiting?
Jen from CA

Take a picture of yourself in the car, in front of the car, driving
the car, and trade it in for something a bit more practical. Then
with the money you are saving on payments, insurance, gas, etc, go
to a nice warm tropical beach, or some other trip you have dreamed
of going on. That is what I would do.
Lori - MI
Open RnY 8/1/03

I wish you all the best. My thoughts and prayers will be with you.
You have the right attitude. I am sure you will do great. Please
keep us informed of your success. I personally can not wait to hear
your interpretation of the first few days. Hmmm...I guess I'm not
lurking very well, am I?
Michelle

best wishes for your big day tomorrow. my prayers are with ya.
lori h.

Keep it as long as it is not making you financially suffer more than you are
willing to tolerate. You deserve a reward! Take care.
Danielle M
Peace Out :o)

a few months ago, we bought a sports car. not a big deal, except
that in my old MO days, we would've NEVER gotten it. now, the dh
wants to trade it in, however, i feel that he's taking away
something that signifies a milestone. don't get me wrong, i'm not a
car person or materialistic, but i don't know about this one. it's
not the most practical car, it guzzles gas, bleh, bleh.
what would YOU do???
lori h.

hi again ladiebugg lori. to reiterate my sherlock holmes post, i
checked the member's list & there was NO ONE with that email addy
from the gastric bypass family.
anyhow, i imagine that a larger forum, such as spotlighthealth or
obesityhelp might have an answer for ya. it would be reassuring for
you to know of another revision case & info on the cm bypassed.
hope you find the answers you're looking for, hunny.
lori h.

it gets better every day, i also felt like crrrap the 1st 5 days.
there was no nutritionist @ the hospital, wow...
i did homemade broth, decaf hot tea, ummmm...
lori h.

kathy check with your doc. i'm on 20 mg prescription pepcid & it's
been a lifesaver. i get the generic & all i pay is $5 for a month's
supply.
lori h.

thanx for the ghrelin post. i had dr jacobs in '94 for a gallbl
removal, he's very warm & has an impeccable rep. lost it when i
became a vegetarian for 13 months & consumed little to no fat.
lori h.

welcome home!!
lori h.

Hello Everybody----First of all--I want to thank each & Every one of you who
asked me not to leave these groups because of that rude e-mail. I am Verrry
Happy & Thankful that I have ya'll!!
I am Very nervous because I am having surgery Sept. 10--I had Open VBG May 2001
& have had problems with it + I have gained my weight back so I am having it
revised to an OpenRNY. I am not Very scared about the surgery itself--I am
scared about gaining my weight back Again-----however-I am going to do any &
Eeeverything I can to keep from it, but I am just wondering what it is like--I
think the Dr. is bypassing around 75cm -maybe a little more-& I have got about
probably a little bitt more than 150 pounds. If any of ya'll have had this
revision or knows somebody that has--Let me know how You or they have
done.----Right now I have mixed emotions--I mean I do plan to have the
surgery--& My hubby, daughter & Most of my family-friends are happy I have
decided to do this---but my dad & a few of my friends Do not know why I'm having
it & they are afraid if I have problems eating--it cannot be re-done---I got
real sick after my VBG--& the Dr. has to loosen the band some--I could not even
hold down water. & some people are suggesting me have the Duodenal Switch but
#1. I don't think my Dr. does it &#2 I don't think my insurance covers
this----Infact I got denied at 1st I got denied & I appealed & finnnally got
approved to even have this RNY revision.
Ok---I will quit rambling on--But PLEEEAZE Pray for me---& If anyone can give me
Any information you may have on the Revision surgery from VBG to RNY. Or about
the RNY itself. Agin, my surgery is September 10 & I'm nerrrrvous!
Hugs to all!! May God Bless You Always! Love, Lori
Anyone feel free to E-mail Ladiebugg_105@...

well im back from my surgery had it tuesday morning and came home
friday night ...either i am a totally sissy and a baby or i think
this is the worst thing i have ever been thru ..lol ..( both could be
true)
i am finally feeling much better today ...awww the first couple of
days i kept asking myself what have i done ..this is not the way i
thought it would be ...but the more days goes by the happier i
am ...this liquid diet stuff is about more than i can take ...not
alot of options ..i dont feel hungry but the head hunger is taking me
over i think ...im ok till i smell the pizza my husband cooks or the
i see the soda he drinks then i feel like im dying ...but im not i
dont feel hungry at all so i know its the head thing ....i feel
really let down by doctor and my hospital i went to ..new start in
missouri ...i left the hosital with little to no detail of how to
live my new life by what i could eat and what i could not ...i
thought i knew all the answers by trying to read all ur posts i could
get in ...but i feel like im out in the cold ...so here is my
questions ...what about crystle light suger free is it ok to drink
and if so how much of it ...what about peanut butter ..fat free suger
free ? ehat about apple juice ...what can i eat and not
eat ..somebody help fast lol ....i cant take no more water ...im 5
days out and 14 pounds less ..is this good ? thanks all
open ryn 08/12/03
317/303

I have a question regarding taking Pepcid Complete. I am to take 2
tablets twice a day for at least up to the first year. I wanted to
know if anyone else's doctor advises this and or if any other type of
antacid is recommended by your doctor. Also if anyone else is taking
the Pepcid Complete is there a cheaper product that does the same
that anyone else knows of? Thanks for the info. Take Care...Kathy

Has anyone here had surgery with Dr Jacobs or Gomez in Miami FL?
I had surgery with Dr Jacobs and he is by far the best Dr I have
ever met. Would love to meet more of their patients.
Vanessa

The Hunger Hormone
The United States is the fattest nation on earth. Two-thirds of
Americans are overweight. Nearly 59 million are considered obese,
putting them at risk for diabetes, heart disease and high blood
pressure.
We're all casualties of a battle between our genes and our fast food
culture. And now, it turns out we may be casualties of a hormone
called ghrelin.
Ghrelin is the hunger hormone. It's made in the stomach, and it
tells the brain when it's time to eat. Ghrelin doesn't cause
obesity, but scientists think taming it might help us get our scales
back in balance.
They're also investigating an opposite hormone PYY that makes
you feel full.
So, as 60 Minutes II asked this spring, what if we could take a drug
that would shut off our ghrelin or boost our PYY?
In labs around the country, the race is on to find out.
Correspondent Vicki Mabrey reports.

Apparently when you reduce fat content from high to very low, you can
end up with biliary stasis. In other words, the gallbladder has
nothing to do because there are no fats in the stomach to break down.
The bile backs up and it causes a syndrome that seems like
gallbladder attacks,upper abdominal pressure pain (bear hug), nausea
and vomiting. SOUND FAMILIAR? If you suffered from this knowingly
(diagnosised) or if you had the symptoms and things got better
suddenly, What did you different? Here a good one for you
guys. .............Learning everyday...............Jen from CA
post op 6wks

In a message dated 8/17/2003 1:26:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
funmomof2@... writes:
Hi Michelle
I am overjoyed that you are finished with surgery and are heading on your way
to a speedy recovery. I am angry that the hospitals staff did not listen to
you in the first place when you told them you don't do well with morphine ...
geesh so why do they even ask us in the first place if they are not going to
listen. Oh well you are doing great and you too will be one of the success
stories even if you slip back into lurkdom LOL. Thank you so much for sharing
your experiences it means the world to me especially since I will be having the
same lap procedure in about 8 days. Good Luck and God Bless you are a
wonderful loser ... hehehe LOL
Lori Anne
pre-op Lap RNY
8/25/03

hi family, i am home and everything went well. so far
no problems.just hope that it stayes that way. had
sugeryat 2:30 and got home friday. take acre kathryn

In a message dated 8/17/2003 12:09:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
debkroll212003@... writes:
Hey Deb
I just wanted to let you know that you are an awesome source of inspiration
on this site and that you are wished continual blessings and healing and
especially on the date of your surgery which is Tomorrow!!! Deb you will sail
through surgery and be heading for a speedy recovery and all the weight loss you
want. Good luck and God Bless you sweetie.
Lori Anne
pre-op Lap RNY
8/25/03

welcome home, michelle!! & very insightful post, you're right, it's
a special comraderie & common bond that we all share.
lori h.

welcome joy. re the cd player, is you have a family member hold it,
it's fine. b/c you'll spend some time out of your room, walking,
getting the leak test, etc.
i brought a bathrobe, so i could walk the halls without "offending"
hehe.
lori h.

Hi all my name is Joy and i'm very new to this sight I don't have my
surgery until December sometime I am 323 lbs and amd looking to go
down to 130lbs I have struggled with my weight my entire life and
now i'm at a life and death situation I do have some question
1.what is there verson of a liquid diet? can it include sugar free
jello,yougurts,applesauce etc..
2 once your done with the liquid diest what are you allowed to eat??
do you have anytime how long it takes to comletely heal?
thats all I can think of right now but will probally think of more
like I just did right now.
3 will they let you bring in a personal cd player to listen to
while your there?
4 do you have to wear there gown or are you allowed to wear yours
after surgery thanks for all your help I live in Phoenix Arizona hope
to hear back from you....JOy

I have to agree with you. My nurses, too, wanted me to be happy and
comfortable, once they realized that the morphine was making me
throw up and changed my pain meds, I was happy and content to sleep
and rest and they were happy to let me do it. The next day they
convinced me to walk, once I started, they couldnt get me to stop.
One doctor commented that they were going to install a raceway in
the hallway for me. Those interesting booties that make you feel
like you're walking while you're laying down were a trip, and I
could hardly wait to get rid of them! Before I left, I wrote a
compliment letter to the Nurse and the Patient Care Assistant and
had a copy delivered to the Head Nurse of the Surgical Unit. They
deserved to be recognized for their excellent Patient Care. By the
way, I had my surgery at Huntington Memorial Hospital in Pasadena,
CA, Dr. Wes Powell. They are wonderful there!

I had my surgery on Tuesday August 12. It was the LAP procedure.
You know, I feel like I've been punched in the belly a few good hard
times! I understand that it's normal, but still, no one really tells
you that. I didn't come out of the anesthesia well and woke up
nauseaus and throwing up. No one listened to me before hand that I
don't do well with morphine. When they finally changed my pain meds
to Torodol, I began to do much better. On the day after surgery I
had little sips of just water and ice chips. It felt so good going
down, but it made me feel like I had just finished a bottle of
seltzer water. Burping and hiccoughing are not fun at this stage. On
the 2nd day after surgery, I was not ready to go home yet. They
started me on diluted apple juice and cranberry juice, plain old
Ocean Spray mixed 50/50 with water and ice. That seemed to go down a
bit better and I was also able to move up to 4 oz an hour. This
helped to quench my thirst a bit more, as I felt really parched.I
went home the third day after surgery and started on my protein
shakes. the dietician told me to mix 2 measuring spoons full of
powder with my water, so I can make sure to get the protein in. I am
sipping water all the time, in between the shakes. I have also had
the clear liquid of Miso soup, which was heavenly, albeit a little
salty. I also had some sugarfree lime jello which was just the best
thing ever! I think my tastebuds are just a little sensitive now.
Now my goal is to drink my liquids and get in my proteins. My
doctors plan has me on this program for 2 weeks and then slowly
adding thicker liquids, moving up to pureed foods in the next few
weeks, however I can tolerate it. From reading so many posts (I've
been lurking for a long time!) my advice to those of you who have
questions about what liquids and when is to ask your doctor. You
don't want to introduce things too early into your very sensitive
system, at least for the first 6 weeks you are raw and swollen
inside, follow the doctors plan for you. The day I was leaving the
hospital I "met" another woman who had her surgery the day before.
We nodded at one another in the hallway, just knowing we belonged to
a special group. I asked her how she was feeling, she agreed it
wasn't exactly what she had bargained for, but she knew it would get
better. I know it will get better, too. I have a lot of support in
my life from people who have been on this side for 14 months
(husband and wife did it on the same day) a cousin and a friend who
both had surgery in January (he's down 135, she is down 87) It is an
amazing journey. I'm so glad I started now. Thanks for letting me
post!
As I slide back into lurking position...
Michelle
LAP 8/12/03
219/212/?whatever feels good.

Hi Lori Thanks I bought some sugar free items Plus Popsicles I'm
having one tomorrow to try them out since I'm on Liquids.I Can't
wait to join you all.Talk to ya after Monday.Thanks for everything.a
friend debkroll of Iowa,Wt
357.5/?/waiting.

are you laid up for like a whole week after the rny...
how long does it take for you to be able to move
around and stuff. to go to the bathroom on your own
etc... I am scheduled for 9/10 rny

Deb,
I am on liquids for the first 3 - 4 weeks. I could add cream soups
after one week, also applesauce, yogurt, and anything liquid. I
enjoy V8 now also. I am use to the liquid now and it is easy, but
there are times i need to chew on something, so surgar free
popsicles saved me. I think I ate only those for the first week
home..lol Good luck on monday and you are in my prayers.
Lori - MI
Open RnY 8/1/03

I believe there is something that changes for some people after this
surgery. I know some people are still hungry and have to fight that
all the time, but that has not been the case for me. I am only 2
weeks post-op, but dont feel bad to see my family eat. I fix them
all the food, and just leave the room while they eat. I made
cookies for my kids and wasnt tempted in the least bit either. I
dont know if there is a hormone that is helping me or the fear of
getting sick from eating things I cant have right now. I know that
things taste different to me. I like yogurt and V8 and before
surgery i wouldnt touch them. I know that i can drink more than i
probably should be able to at one time. I can sip a 8 oz shake in
about 15 mins. Can anyone else do that?
Lori
Open RnY 8/1/03

I keep hearing about how wls cuts off the horme that makes people
want to eat so much. I don't see how this is possible. How can
reducing the size of our stomachs reduce a hormone? If that was
true than why are so many people still hungry after having gastric
surgery and some people have trouble losing weight even after the
surgery ???
Anna

Anna,
I am not sure there is such a thing as a hormone that makes you want to
eat. I think it's more of a case of how you think about things, at least
in my own opinion. I know that in my experience, the 'head hunger' got
easier as I was allowed more foods and I really do fill up faster and
don't want as much with my new tummy. Tonight, for example, we went to
my favorite Mexican food place and for desert, my family ordered
sopapillas. I love these sweet treats! However, I was not tempted one
single bit by the smell of cinnamon, sugar and honey as I normally would
have been. I thought, boy those look good, but they didn't look good
enough for me to want to try one, if you get my drift.
Anyway, that's just my opinion.
Tanya
432/384/170
Lap RNY 6/20/03

Hi everyone! This is my 2nd trip to the group. I am having surgery
on 9/10/3. It dawned on me when I read the postings tonight that I
need to buy a food processor or a good blender. Is one better than
the other for pureeing food? Ideas, brands, range of costs??? Thanks,
Angie H.

In a message dated 8/16/2003 11:56:26 AM Central Standard Time,
clearlight@... writes:
the losing side. Doctors pay high malpractice insurance rates they arent
going to rush through anything that would put their career in jeopardy.
Wolfie
Pre-Op
Leeds, Alabama
Surgery Date-August 27th
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

In a message dated 8/16/2003 6:44:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jazz1@... writes:
Hi Mark
I am sorry this is the first time I am ever reading this post from you but
yes post ops (when your surgeon says it's ok) start the pureed stage of food
consumption. This stage that I will be experiencing very soon consists mostly
of
protein based foods like chicken, tuna, turkey and you should process them
until they are of baby food consistency and go light on the seasonings until
after you have tasted it. The amount of food you eat should be something that
is
discussed with you by your surgeon. In fact your surgeon or nutrionist has a
responsibility to provide you with literature of what you are exactly
supposed to eat and how much and when and how to prepare these foods. If you
did not
receive this information I think you should demand it from them ASAP.
Good Luck
Lori Anne
pre-op Lap RNY
8/25/03

All Right Danielle M. I so happy for your down 108 in four and half
months.Boy everyone has lose so much.Congraduation too
You.
a friend debkroll of Iowa,Surgery date 357.5/?/ waiting to count
them
down.

Hi all,
I asked this question about a week ago and got no reponses. I am
trying again :).
According to my doctors nutritional requirements post-op, I am
supposed to eat pureed protein for the first 2 weeks. I was wondering
if anyone could give me some tips on what to eat!
Thanks!
Mark
Pre-op

Thanks I kind of found out that but felt so sorry for not
understanding that at frist.I hope things are great with you and
thanks for understanding what I mean.Well tommorrow all i'll have is
fluids becuz Monday is finally my big day to Join all of you
loser's.I'm ready and Keep you guys informed after I get back home
how it went.I all ready bought a few items to drink.Man I never knew
that theres so much sugar in things.So on juices I havn't bought
any.They said 100% juice but as I read the little words it sad 26 or
more grams of sugar.I got instead Crystal Light and sugar free jello
and 98% fat free broth.How long does most just have Liquids ? I
prepared in my mind for what ever comes at be I think.Just hope I
heal quick and Don't throw up.Well God Bless and Thanks for
answering all my crazy question.a freind debkroll of Iowa,Surgery
date Aug.18,2003,Wt# 357.5/?/anything under 200.Smile.

Deb, it is not you the bottom on the message is a message someone sent to her.
So don't worry about your spelling we know what you are saying.
Chris B.
Surgery date 7/23/03
301/277/150?
BTC/ Columbus OH
Dr.Stelmack
Open RNY

It really was the best option for me and I wish you much luck with the
process. I am 4.5 months out and I feel like a new person already! I am down 108
lbs
and it just seemed to melt away. I have been warned that the last half of the
weight doesn't seem to just 'disappear' like the first half so I am starting
to adhere to an aerobic program. YUCK! LOL!
Again, good luck and take care!
Danielle M.
Lap RNY
3/31/03 BMI 57
361/253/135
Dr. S. Merola
Queens, NY
Peace Out :o)

Has anyone tried the protein nectars/shakes blended with ice, served
over
crushed ice or frozen? I was just wondering if that would be like a
slush
or icee. I'm still in the researching stage but am creating a file of
recipes and tips for post-op.
I have a doctor appointment with a surgeon on Monday to look into the
possibility of having weight loss surgery. I personally know of 4
people
who have had it and all are doing really well. I feel at this stage
in my
life this is what I need to do for me!
Carol Beck

Way to go Kimmie... I'm so proud of you..I can't wait until Sept. 15 rolls
around and then I'll finally be on the loosing side.
Warm Hugz & Big Smiles
Debbie
Northern Minnesota
Pre-Op Lap RNY 9/15/03
Current Weight 269 lbs.

Today I weighed myself and am exactly 199 lbs!! I am actually under that 200
lb mark for the very first time in at least 15 years.
My 8 month anniversary is Tuesday.
I've lost 144 lbs to date.
WOOHOO!!!!!!
Kimmie
Lap RNY 12/19/02/
343/199/135

Way to Go Kimmie.You did it under the mark of 200.Boy your doing
great on this wt lost and only eight months out and lose #144
WOW.I'm sure waiting for that day.Keep it up and have day a great
weekend.a friend debkroll of Iowa,Surgery date Aug.18,2003,Wt#
357.5/?/waiting

I agree 100%, Lori. It disturbs me that too many
medical questions are posed here to those of us who
have little or no medical background. I would
encourage everyone who is experiencing a
medical/surgical problem to call their physicians or
seek help at your local emergency room as soon as
possible. The speed at which you get professional
help could possibly save yourself problems down the road.

Dear Judy - I had my surgery in May of this year and I am 50. And
although not lactose intolerant, I feel much, much better now after
having lost 40+ pounds and look forward to getting the other 70 or so
off.
Best of luck,
Nancy
Lap RNY
5/12/03

After all the worry that they put me through, I had the cardiac stress test
that they ordered on Thursday. Just in case you forgot... I was scheduled
for RNY on Wednesday August 13 when the doctor's office called me at 4pm the
day before surgery to tell me that something was wrong with my EKG.
So I took the test again along with the stress test and all is well! So now
I am rescheduled for this Friday August 22nd at 1:30pm. I'm a little more
nervous about this time because I will be the last surgery of the day on
Friday. I wouldn't want my Doctor to subconsciencely rush through my
procedure on his way to the beach or something. Before I was scheduled first
on a Wednesday...I felt better about that. My wife tells me that there is
absolutely no concern on when he does the surgery, but I'm not convinced. I
guess I'm just nervous about the whole thing and I'm focusing on the time
aspect. I don't know. I just hope everything goes alright.
Ross
New Orleans, La

Hi all, I too am new to wls, mine will be on Sept 15th in Tulsa OK with Dr
Bosquez (I live in KS). I'm worried because I've only had one other minor
surgery and it was 13 years ago. I'm afraid my age may make me slower to
recover (I'm 52). I am determined to suceed though. However I am Lactose
Intollerant and am wondering is anyone else has this problem and if it
improves or adds to the problems. I love dairy but it doesn't like me.
Ocassionally now, I have it anyway and suffer the consequences. What happens
after the surgery. I'm also wondering if it will cause problems with the
gastric exam that is coming up later this month. I see the Dr for the first
time this Tuesday. Hope to hear more of your experiences.

When I had to go for a psychiatric testing it was a 567 question true/false
test called the MMPI. You can look it up online, but it doesn't tell you
very much. It's just a bunch of stupid questions so the shrink or therapist
can get a good idea of your personality. It's pretty accurate too, lol. The
shrink told me that I was living in a stressful situation, I'm overly
sensitive to rejection, and I'm not a happy person. I almost looked at him
and said "DUH!" lol. It's not too hard.
PS. The best websites to research, if you don't already know about them, are
www.gastricbypassfamily.com (which you probably know since you are here,
lol) and www.obesityhelp.com . www.sabaratric.com is pretty good too. Good
luck in your journey.
Shannon in Indiana

Hi Leslie R:
I hit a plateau at 9 weeks and I hate to tell you but I'm still on it, it's
been 5 weeks now that I haven't lost any weight. I saw my surgeon last Wed. and
he said it will pass in time that my body needs to catch up with all that is
going on, I was told to take in more protein and also water so I'm trying that
and to also increase my exercise. Like they told me hang in there and it will
start moving again.
Let me know how you do okay.
Nan

Diana, I had the same kind of psych testing it sounds like you are
having. It wasn't BAD... just LONG and tedious! First I met w/
the psychologist, who asked me several GENERAL questions (such
as 'what is today's date? Who is the President of the United
States?'... stuff like that. Then she said she was going to have
me take a written test of true or false questions. I'm thinking,
OK... no problem! She put me in a room w/ a desk and gave me the
instructions to the test, which appeared to be in a big ledger-type
of book. She left the room, and I started the test, equipped with
several #2 pencils! The questions ranged from things like, "My
mother is a good person. If deceased, my mother WAS a good person"
to stuff like, "I often hear little voices telling me what to do".
A lot of the questions were very similar ways of saying the same
thing. I'll tell you, I thought the test was NEVER going to END.
There ended up being 500 questions on it! Stuff like "I am afraid
of snakes" and "I am not afraid of frogs" to "I believe that dreams
should be analyzed and used as life-tools" and "If given the
opportunity, I would sneak into the movies without paying". Now,
I'm not exactly sure how this proves that I'm mentally prepared for
WLS, but hey! I did WHATEVER my insurance company told me to do,
and the psych eval was a required step! I'm still waiting for
approval... it's only a matter of time.
Carol
waiting for approval
290/145

Good Luck to You Debora!!!:)
Has Anyone in this group ever had the Revision grom the VBG to RNY on here or
knows someone that has had it??? I am having it next month & I am nerrvous--& I
am not reallly scared about the surgery itself---My Biggest fear is gaining the
weight back agggain--although I am going to Try Any & Every thing to keep from
it.
"Debora A.Kroll" <debkroll212003@...
Hi everyone.I feel so stupid about everything All I read was the
works Can't spell and ect and I guess I owe everyone mainly Beth I'm
sorry to jump to that it was her that wrote it.When we lap the
infomation I sometime get mixed up on whom and what wrote it.Again
Sorry I just was mad becuz someone so mean and rude.I should have
know everyone that been on here been so great too be and
understanding.I hope Beth you will stay on.I know everyone need
opinions and support.anyway I'll be joining the losing side Monday
And hope and pray everything goes great.Which I'm pretty sure it
will.With all your prayers.I bought me a robe so my hiney don't hang
out in the hospital are my big boobs.Haha .God Bless and Your the
great group of people with the Biggest Heart I've ever met.I wish
everyone the best and Can't wait till I can come on the site and say
I'm down so many lb's.Thanks a friend debkroll of Iowa,Surgery date
Aug.18,2003,Wt# 357.5/?/waiting to
lose.

I am told that I have to go on a 12 wks Optifast program before I can have
surgery. Has anyone else been on Optifast? Do you feel hungry all the time on
it like you do slim fast? I just am afraid I'm gonna cheat on it and then
they won't give me my surgery because I can't stick to a meal plan. Looking
forward to your replies.
Jess, MI
337 pre-op

Thanks for the info Nancy, however since I don't have any type of
insurance, I doubt I'd be able to get one of these at this time. I
checked out the site and really wish I could though! :-)
Tanya
432/384/170
Lap RNY 6/20/03

Hi Patrick It's normal to be nervous.Everyone goes throught
that.Sorry to hear thaat moved your date back but You'll do great
and time will go fast.I know becuz I've been waiting since June 1
and this Monday the Big Day.It's finally here.Did I read it right
your from IA (Iowa).I from there but Chatsworth 6 miles north of
Akron,Iowa way on the other side.I'm having mine in Sioux Falls,S.D.
though.Hang in there you'll soon be there.You found the best group
to find info and support.God Bless and keep in touch.a friend
debkroll of Iowa,Surgery date Aug.18,2003,Wt#
357.5/? /waiting.

I'm so happy for you.Can't wait to hear all your update on the wt
lose's.Congraduation and I glad your not dumping are have any pain.I
bet it was great to be home.Take Care keep us inform.God bless a
friend debkroll of Iowa,Surgery Date Aug.18,2003,Wt #
357.5/?/waiting

Congraduation Diane Way to GO I wish you the best.Thats great on
that much wt lose.Keep on going.I hope I do that Great.a friend
debkroll of Iowa,Surgery Date Aug.18,2003,Wt 357.5/?/
waiting.

So sorry about not up to power yet and what the school did.I think
it's best she stays and learns at home.Some school are just rude and
money hungry then about teaching are children in the school's.My son
who graduaated from school in 2002 had a hard time at the school in
are distrit and was failing.But I open enroll him to a different
school in the other distrit he went from failing D's and F's to
honor roll in the same year.Tell Sarah I'm praying for her and wish
your only the BEST she the great and smart young lady I ever
met.Well Take care talk soon and keep me info on her progress.a
friend debkroll of Iowa

Welcome Patrick and good luck to you. I also was alone during my surgery and
afterwords. I had my parents and family that way, but I didn't have a
boyfriend or husband or anything like that, so I feel I did it all on my
own.
You will do great! Good luck!!
Kimmie
Lap RNY 12/19/02
343/200/135

Hi I am new to the group. I am scheduled for surgery on the 10th of
september. at USC here in la. they changed it from the 28th of
august. I am a little nervous becasue I am pretty much alone, but I
am trying to meet new folks and get in tune with the "gastric bypass"
way of doing things.lol either way, nice to meet you all. I will
start my baby book soon. so look forward to fat pictures and thin
ones. I won't take one until after I have the surgury.

hi everyone just a quick update i got home late this afternoon
surgery went wounderful no pain no compilcations stomach is a little
sore from surgery but that is expected doctor couldnt belive how
well i am doing i was walking 6 hours after my surgery no gumping
sindrums everything is stayin down.....and it is amazing that only
one ounce of liquids fills me up didnt need open surgery they did
the lap.....family sasy they can already see a diff....hard to
belive i havent had a bite of food in over 7 days each days seems to
be getting easyer but i must say that this posting is tiring me out
my first post op visit is this mon. .......i am going to do my first
weigh in since my pre op visit weigh in......i will be checkin in
with u guys thank u sooo much for ur prayers and thoughts its
because of all the messages that this surgery went well if u have
any questions please fill free to e-mail me.
your friend on the loosing side
377/?/180

Hi Everyone,
This past Tuesday, I went for my 1 month post op. I am down 32lbs.
The dietician has told me to eat chopped foods and to start on cooked
vegetables. Guess what, I tried eating non pureed food on Wed and
Thurs and I had the worse case of throwing up that I can remember.
Severe, forceful throwing up any time that I tried eating solids.
Water stayed down as long as I tood sips of it. I called Dr. Klem's
office and he told me that he wanted to see me Friday at 9am at the
hospital. I spent 5 hours at the hospital getting a bag of IV (yes,
dehydrated again) and having an upper GI. It seems that the opening
from the pouch to my small intestine is the correct size. Now I'm
keeping a food journal of everything that I put into my mouth, liquid
and solids. Dr. Klem is hoping this will pass. So do I.
Dawn P
257/225/125
7/14/03
Dr. Klem
Winfield, IL

Oops! Wrong weight-gotta claim every lb. right now! LOL
Beverly
LAP RNY 7/31/03
265/240/160
YEAH!

I just wanted to take the time to thank the people in this group for
all their support and for all the information that has been provided
to me. I am 2 weeks post-op, and this group really helped me make
some decisions and provided me with answers to questions I didn't
even know to ask pre-op.
It is amazing the kind of changes that start happening as soon as you
really start recovering from the actual surgery. For example, I don't
know what my favorite foods are anymore, and I can't tell what will
taste good until I try it. One bite or one sip lets you know pretty
quick, though! LOL Poor hubby was so frustrated trying to fix things
for me that I could eat/drink, and I felt sorry for him. He was a
darling though, and just kept trying stuff. Gotta love that! I tried
to stock up on things I thought I would need after the surgery, but
nothing tasted like I expectd, and a lot of that stuff may never be
used-at least by me! Chicken broth was nasty no matter what I did to
it, and the Crystal Lite lemonade that seemed so good pre-op is not
acceptable to me now. It feels like my taste buds have been rewired!
Go figure. I was never a water drinker, but since the morning after
surgery a glass of ice cold water has been the best thing in the
world. Sugar free Jell-o, water, sugar-free popsicles and Wyler's
sugar free green tea with peach(served hot like an herbal tea)got me
through the clear liquid stage. But I had a hard time choosing
flavors that were good to me. Any more surprises like this down the
pike? Give me the scoop!
Beverly
LAP RNY 7/31/03
265/249/160

Hi Mel...
There's nothing wrong with homeschooling. I pulled out my 16yo dd out of public
school in Feb. and she's made such an improvement in grades and knowledge then
when she's in Public School...
Best of wishes to you and Sarah
Big Hugz & Warm Smiles
Debbie
Northern Minnesota
Pre-Op Lap RNY 9/15/03
Current Weight 269 lbs.

Well I have started the long process of seeing the nurtionist Aug. 19
and then see the Psychologist on the 26 for some 2 hour testing DOES
ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS TESTING????? And then I see the
surgeon on Sept. 18 and then I guess they will pick my date and make
sure I quialify for everything. I am so ready for this I have done
many searches and learned so much and I am so happy to be able to
finally do something to help my weight loss. Any tips for things
anyone has to offer I would greatly appreciate and feel free to email
me directly I dont get to get online to much so find i missed alot of
stuff when i do get online to the group. And Debora I live in
Wisconsin way up northern part. I sure hope to hear from you all and
any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Diana

sending healing wishes for sarah. & boy does it stink that her
school couldn't/wouldn't make accomodations for her after a
medically necessary surgery.
& way to go on your wl!!
lori h.

two words: wow! wow!
you're come a long way! & risen like the phoenix. so proud of ya,
as always, you're an inspiration & one of my wls HEROES!
hats off to ya for getting your life back.
lori h.

Hi All
just wanted to give everyone an update about sarah as shes been
really sore and hurting alot these last few days. trying to start
school this week proved to be too much for her. The school for one
was not going to make the modifactions and adjustments to her
schedule, we had a letter from her surgeon requesting this for
her,and were fighting me on her diet, have been fighting with them
all week ,were making wait till 1:30 to be able to have lunch and
mind u she caught the bus everyam at 7am , if u didnt know we are
stationed in NC @ Pope AFB and mine and sarah's surgeries were both
done at Portsmouth Naval hosp Virginia, so we have to drive 5 hrs
each way for careand we take 2 days for these trips to allow for
what ever testing or anything else to be done while were there,
anyway the schools here have a policy that a student cant miss more
then 8 days per semester and work can not be made up and if u miss
more then the 8 days no matter if your a A student or not its an
automatic D in all classes and thats nt passing here , so i pulled
sarah out of school and we will begin to homeschool her instead (now
mind u sarah is only 16 and a sophmore in school)we had to take her
to the army hosp here at FT Bragg to the surgery clinic as she
developed a abcess in her incision the last couple of days which is
why they sent her home from school on tues. anyway everything is
being taking care of and shes doing much better tonite. as soon as
she feels better ill have her post a message herself. sarah is now 4
weeks postop and weight wise doing very good lol (o:
sarah age 16 BMI 46 preop weight 342 now 313 7/21/03
thanks for listening to the mom person lol
melody
pre op 352 bmi 46
now 180 bmi 24
11/19/01
Portsmouth Naval Hospital,Va

You have done so well. Your story gives all of us inspiration.
Charlotte
Pre-op (tomistic)

Hello:
Can you please help me unsubscribe to this Gastric Bypass Site. It would be
appreciated.
Thank you so such.
Address; MaggieMuTamTam@...

Yey,all
Yesterday I was in Little Rock so I dropped by my surgeon's office
to be weighed: 341.8 lbs, or a total loss of 263.2 lbs. in 15
months! When I got back to my hometown I went to my PCP's office
and weighed there: 338 lbs! That's the first time I've been
weighed on my doctor's scale in 18 years (it only goes to 350#).
That made me think about a few differences in the last year or so.
One year ago on August 9 I finally left the hospital after three
months. I had to use a wheelchair after my long incarceration (it
least it FELT like being in prison to me), graduating to a walker
after MUCH physical therapy. This year I don't need any of that and
I work out at the gym on weights and the treadmill. Last year I
took a lot of medications. This year only my supplements and one
lone blood pressure pill that stubbornly refuses to surrender. Last
year I couldn't walk more than 3-4 steps even with the walker
without stopping to rest. This year, I took my daughter a few weeks
ago to tour Blanchard Springs Caverns in Arkansas.
What a difference a year makes, huh?
Steve G.
open RNY 5/6/02 Dr. Mark Gibbs
605/341.8/???
P.S.--Even though my PCP's scale numbers are 3 pounds lower and look
better, I'm still using the higher in my "official" stats. After
all, I've been going by the reading on my surgeon's scale all this
time, so I might as well continue to.

In a message dated 8/15/2003 7:52:35 AM Central Standard Time, rwjjc4@...
writes:
Wolfie
Pre-Op
Leeds, Alabama
Surgery Date-August 27th
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

In a message dated 8/15/2003 9:30:34 AM Central Standard Time,
cheyanne1113@... writes:
Wolfie
Pre-Op
Leeds, Alabama
Surgery Date-August 27th
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

I have PCOS. I actually on have one ovary remaining - I had a hysterectomy
when I was 23 with one ovary removed due to adenomyosis and endometriosis. I
am 3 months post op. It didnt come up at all when I was getting approved for
the surgery, but I have definitely noticed more pain in my ovary since surgery,
especially the last month. It seems like it is really producing cysts right
now and I dont know what wls has to do with that except maybe my hormone
levels are changing as I lose weight.
~ami~
Lap RNY 5-13-03
261/218/130
In a message dated 8/15/2003 4:21:21 PM Central Standard Time,
jennifercole03@... writes:

hi family. one of my fav professors, a judge, always told us to watch
out & be skeptical @ all times, b/c everyone has an agenda of some
sort. a part of me wants to believe him, but another part knows that
there are noble people out there. anyway, here goes:
regarding selective consumption of information: all info on this site
is anecdotal & informal in nature. members are encouraged to confirm
any & all info with other sources. review any & all information with
your professional health care team & of course don't rule out getting
a second opinion from yet another set of health care providers.
lori h.

Hi-
I have been reading the posts for a few weeks, am very interested in getting the
surgery and now awaiting the information session by the doctor so I can get the
ball rolling. My question to you girls out there is: Does anyone have PCOS and
does it affect, either positive or negative, having WLS? One of the main
symptoms for this disease is weight gain! It makes so much sense now, but I am
worried it will hinder my chances of getting approved. I would love to hear any
responses if you know anything.
Thanks,
Jennifer

welcome aboard. mmmmm, you wanna stop losing? hand over them secrets!
lori h.

Deb, you're such a sweetheart.
Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/279/130?

Tanya, let me add just one more thing and then I'll leave it alone.
The reason I questioned it in the first place is because when my
doctor first brought it up to me, he told me that one patient took
it and it burned a hole in his pouch and he died. Again, at my pre-
op, he wrote on my notes NO NSAID's, which I believe Advil is one.
Might warrant a little more research on your part. Just looking out
for you. Take care!
Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/279/130?

Well guys, I understand everything you've said about Advil and what have
you but I think I'm still going to stick with what my surgeon says. He's
been doing this for a very long time (over 5000 surgeries under him) and
I hope he wouldn't tell me that it was okay if it wasn't. After all, I
only take it occasionally when I have a migraine (like around that time
of the month) so I can't see it hurting too much. Thanks for all your
input though. I really appreciate it! :-)
Tanya
432/384/170
Lap RNY 6/20/03

First of all let me say that Beth you need to just learn some people are
just plain rude ! Which to me is so silly Life is to short for that kind of
bull. And Debora I taught High School for 10 years and I still make spelling
errors please dont put yourself down. Beth if this group is of help to you
pleae stay. When I read e-mails that are rude I just feel sorry for the
sender. We are hear for support ! Have a good day
Robin O- Calif

i've heard this too. these are irritants to our precious pouches.
lori h.

hmmmm, beth & all the rest of the decent folk onboard: i checked the
members listing & THERE IS NO "EPniteowl@...". so this rude &
repulsive person got your email from somewhere else, not from the
gastrc bypass family.
& heck no!! perfect grammar, spelling or capitalization (ah-hem!) is
not required 'round here. we ain't perfect!
lori h.

hi folks. my understanding, from obesityhelp, an angel is someone who
checks up on you @ the hospital. i've done that locally for @ least a
dozen of my wls comrades.
however, we all need support & there are ANGELS all around us (
wherever we happen to be on our journeys).
lori h.

nice to have ya onboard. do you have a surgery date?
lori h.

Morning All!
Just need somebody to tell me this too shall pass. I am at 9 weeks
out from open rny, down from 265 to 220 and completely stuck there.
Also I haven't had a period since the surgery. I see my surgeon on
Tuesday, but please tell me this is normal?
Leslie R

Hello list...
Our Dr. also said that Advil and the like are off-limits. My problem is that
both my wife and I suffer from inflamed TMJ and the only thing that works
are anti-inflamatories like Advil and ibuprofen. Does anyone else have this
problem that can suggest another remedy? Ibuprofen works better than real
drugs like vicodin believe it or not.

Amen, Wolfie!!
Jess, MI

I don't think that letter even came from this group. I haven't found anyone
here to be mean and hateful. That's just me though.
Good luck to you and have a safe journey.
Diana
Beth Itsmee <ladiebugg_105@...
I guess I will just Unsubscribe again & stay off these group lists this time. A
couple of Very sweet & thoughtful people talked me into coming back to join--&
those of you who did thanx for the support but e-mails like this is why I get
so mad & hurt because of Mean & Hateful Responses like this!! But anyone
who wants to keep on e-mailing me for support & has been & will be a little
nicer feel free to Ladiebugg_105@... But e-mails Like this
one

Wolfie...well said. Beth, I am sorry you encountered such a nasty person.
Please keep with the group. It's such a source of informantion and support.
Unfortunately there are some that do not give that unconditional support that
is needed.
Take care of you.
Julie

Thank you all who replied to the question re pills. Started taking my
HBP pills yesterday with water instead of crushing. Worked fine and I
feel free..........I really have been a victim of very poor post op
information from my surgeon's office. Until I found this group I was
treading water. Now I feel more confident that I have people to turn
to. Ya know, there is a support group associated with my Dr. office
but when I attended a meeting PRE-op, all they did for 1 1/2 hrs was
talk about FOOD! Not what I needed.
Again thanks to you all................................Jen from CA

Hi Julie,
I'm just curious as to why you don't eat the crust. I'm still in the
researching stage and am trying to learn all that there is to learn.
Thanks
Carol
Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:16:57 EDT
From: rwjjc4@...
Subject: Re: Pizza
I eat pizza, but I don't eat the crust. I load the topings on and just eat
them. I personally have had no problem.
Take Care,
Julie
Open RYN 4-7-03
351/281/???

WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!! You go girl!!
Angie D

I was looking for help with maintaining weight loss as i am having a
time of it keeping the weight on 1.5 years after surgery.

In a message dated 8/14/2003 11:43:52 PM Central Standard Time,
mmgood010469@... writes:
Well well, I see that another bully had come on the scene. I think sometimes
people forget this isnt the forum for attack. I myself let loose once and I
deeply regretted it. Its not the proper place. We are here to help each other
through one of the most difficult life changes a person can put themselves
through. We are not here to grade a person's spelling or to reprimand them in
any
way. We are a SUPPORT GROUP!!!!! And that is just what we should remember.
There are no english teachers here and WE WILL NOT BE GRADED! Of course this is
my opinion. But if someone would like to grade me then please , oh please, let
me know. We will meet and have coffee and talk about it, OK? So much bravery
hides behind these monitors. It makes me wonder how mouthy one would be face to
face with someone. Also behind these monitors are people with hearts and
feelings that bleed and cry and search for the knowledge we need to attain to
travel this journey. We are suppose to be there to give that hug, or wipe that
tear, or share in the smiles and the joy. We are not to persecute and condemn.
That is what is wrong with the world now . So much hatred and dislike and people
thinking they are so superior. When it comes down to it you can stick us all
in a barrel upside down turned inside out and what have you got. Well by
cracky aint it amazin!!!!!!!! (Using slang for you compulsive graders) We are
all
the same!!!!! God Bless the pure of heart that have the compassion and love to
share and help others. Thank you all.
Wolfie
Pre-Op
Leeds, Alabama
Surgery Date-August 27th
Dr. Lee A. Schmitt

Have you had children before?
They are so good with giving you plenty of pain med. You will be
fine and if you are feeling uncomfortable, ask for more meds. The
body healths better if it is not dealing with pain also.
I was more nervous about "after" than the actual surgery. I am only
2 weeks post-op and I am feeling pretty good. I have not had any
real nausea to speak of. Milk is working fine for me too.
Please feel free to ask any specific questions you may be worried
about. Nothing is too personal to ask here. We are here to make
each other comfortable and more prepared for your journey.
Lori - MI
Open RnY 8/1/03

Welcome !!!!!!!!!!
Thoughts and prayers will be with you i can't wait either ..
Peggy
Smile and Count your blessings life is to short

Hello, I am new to this group and have never posted on a board
before. I am 13 days pre-op and a bit nervous as I have never had
any type of surgery before. The doctors I will be using I know are
great, I am just ready to be on the other side so to speak.

Thanks That made my day about the hiney thing I loved it.Thanks and
I'll keep in touch and let everyone how things went.God Bless and
Thanks you made my day.I was worried alittle when Beth wrote about
making her mad and ect & people on the site who can't spell and ect
things .It really bugged be alot.I'm may not be smart but I have a
Big Heart.And she made me feel rotten becuz I can't spell and read
very good.I've been on my owe since I was 14 years old I've lived on
the street and supported my self by lieing about my age to get a
cafe job then nurse aide job in a Nursing home.I even passed a test
to become a CNA to take care of me and put a roof over my head for
many years.How many people who are dumb or stupid and can't read do
that.So Yes her words just made me want to hide in a hole.But Your
little IV pole and hiney joke made me feel a little better.I never
mean't come to the site then hear someone say those word's & cut
whom ever she said it to those word.If she had something agains
something someone said They should e-mail them a letter in
private.Becuz theres people whom have been treated and talk about
and it's hard enough what were going through to hear all that and
not think it was not met for them.God Bless this site and I know not
everyone is like that.I enjoyed everyone encourgement everyone gives
each other.Take care and THANKS a friend debkroll of Iowa,Surgery
date Aug.18,2003,Wt 357.5/?/? & counting.

Beth, I don't know why somebody felt the need to be so mean to you.
I can assure you that is not what this group is about. I hope you
will reconsider and stick around. There is so much to learn and to
share. Please give it another shot.
Deb, if you look closer at the post you will see that Beth was not
directing her comment to you at all. At the bottom of her post is
the nasty comment she received from somebody else.
I just can't believe somebody did that. It was so mean. Who cares
about spelling. It's what a person has to say that matters
most...especially when they need support!
Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/279/130?

Tanya, can we take Advil? I thought we were only supposed to use
Tylenol?
Jen, my doctor told me that I need to cut the pills up into small
pieces. He said this was mainly to get better absorption. If you